The SPFL vote vote

[Ian38018]

5 minutes ago, Ric said:

You've misspelled Budge's persistent whining..

I assume you are a Hearts down/Dundee United up, unchanged 12-team structure man?  I could live with that.

I cannot imagine you were serious with "I'm all for 4 down in an 18 team league."

[Trackdaybob]

The big problem with four fixtures per season is that it massively dilutes any possibility of a challenge from the 'other 10' who spend the entire season just taking points of each other whilst the cheeks disappear off into the distance at the top. 

Now there's no miracle 'cure' so to speak but surely at least try something. Anything. Or just continue as is. Nothing changes if you don't try. 

I have no answers before you ask. Well nothing that you'll not all shout down because I'd do away with the split. You lot are obsessed with 'the split' .

Have a great day now

 

 

[The DA]

Statement from Thistle https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/partick-thistle-fc-board-update-16th-april-2020/

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Thursday 16th April, 2020 at 3:26pm

To be relegated at any time in a club’s life is, in a sporting context, an enormous setback. You accept your fate, because it was in your hands to change the outcome.

However, to be relegated in the arbitrary and unjust way we are currently experiencing, with no say in it, is heartbreaking for everyone at Partick Thistle, including staff and players and especially our fans.

We advised the SPFL on Tuesday of the joint counsel’s Opinion we had sought in relation to the validity – or not – of the Dundee FC vote cast last Friday.

To be clear, we did not threaten litigation, we sought clarity on the legal points raised.

We still regard this as a strong legal Opinion that raises significant issues around the whole process of the vote and related matters. Having taken further legal advice, we have been advised that we have the option to take this before a court. Instinctively, injustice demands reparation.

However, as a Club, the decision to relegate Thistle is first and foremost about our people and what this might mean for them. To pursue court action costs money and considerable time – so we have had to consider carefully whether both could be better spent on securing the Club’s future and protecting the livelihoods of those we employ. In deciding what our next steps should be, that was our first priority.

Thistle has always lived in the real world so we also looked at the bigger picture of the life-changing pandemic we find ourselves in. The resulting lockdown is challenging the very existence of some clubs. If we were to take this action to court, there is a risk that might stop the release of much-needed monies to those clubs on Friday.

That’s a step too far for us. Regardless of what’s been inflicted on Thistle, we can’t be responsible for pushing even one club to the brink. It would be hypocritical of us to have espoused “do no harm” as a reason why we shouldn’t be relegated and then do exactly that.

Taking all of that into account, although we stand by the legal Opinion, the Board has agreed that we will not seek “further remedy” against the SPFL in order to overturn the Resolution. Although we remain at a loss to understand why a decision was taken – at a time when Governments are seeking to support jobs across sectors – that will cause significant damage to Thistle and others.

Instead, we will focus our efforts and monies on Thistle and look forward, not back. That includes making a positive contribution to the discussions on possible changes to the league structures.

We aren’t looking for sympathy, we don’t need it. We are a well-run, debt-free club with a proud history of rolling with the punches. We may be down but we are not out. When football returns, we will be here, ready to play, regardless of the league we are in.

To our fans, we hope you understand why we have reached this decision. No one should regard this as a sign of weakness – it shows our strength and resolution to get through this despite relegation being forced on us. We aren’t doing what’s easy but we are doing what is right for our Club, our people and for clubs across Scotland. We are grateful for your solid support and encouragement – and when next we meet at Firhill, it will be to start the fightback to right this wrong.

 

[Ric]

7 minutes ago, Ian38018 said:

I assume you are a Hearts down/Dundee United up, unchanged 12-team structure man?  I could live with that.

I cannot imagine you were serious with "I'm all for 4 down in an 18 team league."

I'm actually an advocate of a larger league, rather than repeat what I've said earlier (and it's cool if you missed it, tons of stuff has been posted) here is a link..

As for the 4 team relegation? In an 18 team league I am totally serious about that. It's certainly not for everyone (heh, anyone) but I'd still like to see how it played out.

[Green Day]

10 minutes ago, The DA said:

Statement from Thistle https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/partick-thistle-fc-board-update-16th-april-2020/

 

Summarise the legal bit as "Our counsel said X, SPFL guy said Y, our counsel said it wasnt clear cut and we might not win"

Pragmatic, but yet another of the "see ye in court" dominoes falls over...................

[SweeperDee]

[LIVIFOREVER]

5 minutes ago, SweeperDee said:

Delusional c**t seems to think England would want them, they're like the bunny boiler in Fatal Attraction chasing after English football, only worse, because they didn't even get a shag, they were knocked back for being too ugly.

[Alan Stubbs]

I feel a bit shan for Partick reading that but it does nothing to change my mind that this whole thing has been an embarrassing shambles but not one that any courtroom in the land would give a f**k about.

Still a much better statement than Rangers' carry on about having some ITK scoop to reveal. What a beamer.

[SEETHING]

I didn't think Milquetoast Thistle could get any more shameful after that T.H.I.S.T.L.E song from that weird Sam Smith lookalike guy. 

And yet.

[NorthBank]

Well played Thistle. Budge take note.

[RandomGuy.]

Strange for Partick to give us considering @JTS98 told me their QC had a concrete argument to take the SPFL to court.

[Green Day]

12 minutes ago, NorthBank said:

Well played Thistle. Budge take note.

Bit unfair to expect her to comprehend something with decent grammar and no spelling mistakes. 

[Lobby Dossar]

4 hours ago, Kneal Down Caster said:

It only appears to be the tv companies dictating 4 OF games.

Let them play at hampden in a opening charity shield type game. Winner gets to play twice at home in the league.

This would allow you to play twice then a split.

It’s feckin ridiculous that we need to suggest something like this. If the TVs want the OF games we should stand up and tell them or do one !!!

Canny do that we’ve already signed the deal 

Sold our soul to the devil 

[Guest JTS98]

35 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

Strange for Partick to give us considering @JTS98 told me their QC had a concrete argument to take the SPFL to court.

What are you talking about?

I recall no conversation about Thistle's QC.

I don't think I've ever advocated my own club taking this to court, far less another. My very point for some time was that no legal entity was likely to bother getting involved with this.

Edited April 16, 2020 by JTS98

[naegoodinthedark]

Ah, the blue pound.

Lovely.

[Romeo]

Ah, the blue pound.

 

Lovely.

Where were their "blue pounds" when the old club needed them?

 

[Arch Stanton]

https://www.stmirren.com/all-news/3660-club-statement-spfl-resolution

[Lofarl]

So is that Thistle just in the ah f**k it accepting mode?  

[bennett]

5 minutes ago, Lofarl said:

So is that Thistle just in the ah f**k it accepting mode?  

Reconstruction saves them.

[Ian38018]

7 minutes ago, Lofarl said:

So is that Thistle just in the ah f**k it accepting mode?  

I don't know that they had any choice.

Doesn't the FIFA (or is it UEFA) constitution forbid clubs taking legal action against their parent organisation?

The only route PT would have is through the Court of Arbitration for Sport. 

 

Edited April 16, 2020 by Ian38018