The SPFL recommendation?

[stuartcraig 630]

How is me saying ambitious clubs looking to progress being road blocked by perma-shite diddies anything like saying it’s ok to sell out and become a glorified colt team?

If I have to spell it out for you, then ok.

It’s pretty easy to be dismissive of the impact of supporting the aspirations of ambitious clubs if your club isn’t one of the ones affected.

Similarly, Smith is cool with the idea of sacrificing the independence of provincial teams such as Clyde and Airdrie to enable teams with grander ambitions a chance to fulfill theirs.

I’ll leave it to Brechin and Albion Rovers fans to compare recent records with Clyde’s and assess whether there is any irony in a Clyde fan asserting that they are “perma-shite”.

[Clyde01 1,656]

Listen to billy big bollocked Clyde over here dishing out the perma-shite diddy patter. Your rapist loving rabble have quite literally been a laughing stock pissing around in the basement of Scottish football for over a decade, sit doon.

Maths clearly wasn’t your best subject.

[Clyde01 1,656]

If I have to spell it out for you, then ok.

It’s pretty easy to be dismissive of the impact of supporting the aspirations of ambitious clubs if your club isn’t one of the ones affected.

Similarly, Smith is cool with the idea of sacrificing the independence of provincial teams such as Clyde and Airdrie to enable teams with grander ambitions a chance to fulfill theirs.

I’ll leave it to Brechin and Albion Rovers fans to compare recent records with Clyde’s and assess whether there is any irony in a Clyde fan asserting that they are “perma-shite”.

I’m not talking about sacrificing anyone’s independence though, I completely disagree with that.

But I have no problem with ambitious clubs giving some of the bottom feeders a shake up. East Stirling’s relegation was long overdue. Berwick have shown they are miles off being competitive even at lowland league level. Albion rovers are another perennial struggler who won’t be long till they’re gone. You shouldn’t get countless reprieves, that’s not how a pyramid is supposed to work.

I don’t think it’s good for the game if all the clubs coming up are unsustainable basket cases like Gretna but some fresh blood is long overdue at lower league level.

As for your last point, our spell in league 2 was the first time in our history we had played at that level and I can assure you that throughout it the support was driven by getting out again. Unfortunately there were/are plenty teams down there without that ambition happy to coast along and get their SPFL cash. Chapman and the half Annan squad he brought with him soon found out there was a massive gulf in expectation between Clyde and other clubs in league two.

[Specky Ginger 484]

4 minutes ago, Clyde01 said:

Albion rovers are another perennial struggler who won’t be long till they’re gone. 

 

Albion Rovers were playing in a higher league than Clyde only two seasons ago. 

[Clyde01 1,656]

Albion Rovers were playing in a higher league than Clyde only two seasons ago. 

Of the past 25 seasons Albion rovers have spent 20 of them in the bottom tier. Just because one of their brief sojourns out of it coincided with us being at our lowest ebb doesn’t prove anything.

[The Moonster 15,208]

26 minutes ago, Clyde01 said:

 

Maths clearly wasn’t your best subject.

 

It wasn't, you're right, but which part of my post involves maths?

[Clyde01 1,656]

It wasn't, you're right, but which part of my post involves maths?

The bit where you suggested 9 years was more than a decade.

[The Moonster 15,208]

5 minutes ago, Clyde01 said:

 

The bit where you suggested 9 years was more than a decade.

 

Apologies, I didn't actually know how long Clyde had been an utter irrelevance, I guessed at more than decade. Thanks for clarifying it was just 9 years, hopefully Clyde can continue to dazzle the rest of Scottish football and acheive another ambitious, *checks notes*, 7th place finish in Scotland's third tier. 

[SouthLanarkshireWhite 834]

1 hour ago, The Moonster said:

Listen to billy big bollocked Clyde over here dishing out the perma-shite diddy patter. Your rapist loving rabble have quite literally been a laughing stock pissing around in the basement of Scottish football for over a decade, sit doon.

A rabble that looks to have pushed your buttons by the tone of the last couple of posts. You're going to have a heart attack over not very much. CTFD

[BFTD 7,023]

Is three rounds of games, 39 in total, the only option likely to be considered if they switch to three leagues of 14 teams?

Lopsided fixture lists were, and still are, shite. Any reason why the leagues couldn't split after two rounds of games for another two rounds of games between the teams in the top and bottom halves, for a total of 38 games each? I might be able to live with that.

[Scottydog 768]

6 minutes ago, BigFatTabbyDave said:

Is three rounds of games, 39 in total, the only option likely to be considered if they switch to three leagues of 14 teams?

Lopsided fixture lists were, and still are, shite. Any reason why the leagues couldn't split after two rounds of games for another two rounds of games between the teams in the top and bottom halves, for a total of 38 games each? I might be able to live with that.

Something along the lines of this?

4 hours ago, Scottydog said:

But the main problem is simple finances and the drop off in revenue between leagues (in the event of relegation).  Potentially a 10 team Championship playing 4 times with Dundee Utd/Hearts and Dundee, Dunfermline, Falkirk Partick and Raith is much more lucrative to Championship clubs (though perhaps less so much to East Fife as away support is limited to 1000) than a 14 without 2 or 3 of those big clubs. I do think a 14 team league with a 8/6 split after 26 games followed by another 14/12 games could well be the long term answer as it would bridge the both the financial gap and fill the fixture list. Admittedly it still means playing some teams 4 times but it would just have to be as part of the compromise.

 

[Grangemouth Bairn 3,832]

Hugh Keevins is an elitist dick. I can’t stand him. Horrible, arsehole of a man.

Edited April 27, 2020 by Grangemouth Bairn

[Jupiter Jazz 843]

Splitting leagues is a gimmick I'd like to see avoided at all costs. 14-10-10-10 for one season while looking at restructuring to bigger leagues down the line would do me.

[The Moonster 15,208]

30 minutes ago, SouthLanarkshireWhite said:

A rabble that looks to have pushed your buttons by the tone of the last couple of posts. You're going to have a heart attack over not very much. CTFD

Not at all, just putting a guy who's let that 7th place finish go to his head in his place. If he/she or any other Clyde fan wants to act like they're a level above "diddy" then I'll tell them as well.

What does CTFD mean?

[Grangemouth Bairn 3,832]

2 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

Not at all, just putting a guy who's let that 7th place finish go to his head in his place. If he/she or any other Clyde fan wants to act like they're a level above "diddy" then I'll tell them as well.

What does CTFD mean?

 

2 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

Not at all, just putting a guy who's let that 7th place finish go to his head in his place. If he/she or any other Clyde fan wants to act like they're a level above "diddy" then I'll tell them as well.

What does CTFD mean?

It’s means ‘Capture the Flag’ framework (although in reference to your conversation probably ‘calm the f**k down’

[Tutankhamen 278]

4 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

Not at all, just putting a guy who's let that 7th place finish go to his head in his place. If he/she or any other Clyde fan wants to act like they're a level above "diddy" then I'll tell them as well.

What does CTFD mean?

Calton Tongs eff the Derry

[Larry Hood 111]

Clyde Totally Fucked Dumbarton

[Pride Of The Clyde 373]

Why is reconstruction  even on the table? Simple Hearts have been sh1t and cannot accept their fate, so everyone has to jump through hoops to appease their plight. If Accies or Livi or the likes was bottom no one would be giving a sh1t, I don't remember ever hearing Hearts campaigning for reconstruction previously. 

Hearts are shouting that they are being treated unfairly but to save their skin it doesn't matter who else will be disadvantaged as long as it is not them, never bothered my arse with Hearts previously but as you can guess I now thing they are a shower of b'stards.

[iain p 12]

3 hours ago, an86 said:

Clyde will play in whatever division we decide to give them permission to play in. Lovely stuff. 

a falkirk hero.

[BFTD 7,023]

47 minutes ago, Scottydog said:

Something along the lines of this?

Aye; I've a feeling that it won't even be considered, it'll just be three rounds of games and lump it. Meaning, of course, that we'll never have a level playing field; somebody's bound to end up with a tougher set of fixtures. Why did you go with an 8/6 split, by the way? To prevent everyone ending up with a couple of off-weeks?

I suppose it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but I'm not keen on the kind of split we currently have in the top division. The team finishing 7th ending up with more points than the side in 6th just looks daft, even if we all know what's going on. Just present the two halves as two different sub-leagues. That's a pettier gripe than an uneven fixture list, though.