EFFC1938 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Personally I would keep the play offs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 The play-offs will stay in L1 and L2 at a minimum I’d have thought. There’s also no way we’ll be promoting the HL & LL winners automatically every year so the Livi proposal will be very different before it goes to the vote. I like the Premiership/Championship proposals though. Two automatic spaces and a play-off would be great. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds are Forever Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Play-offs are good financially for clubs and generally keep excitement going longer during the league season as more teams are involved for longer. On the other hand I have always thought there is a slight fairness issue in that you can finish 40% of the way down a league and get promoted, as much as I think play-offs add to the league I have always thought that is a bit unfair. That would be the equivalent of a team finishing 8th in a 20 team league getting promoted. I guess it is finding that trade off between fairness and excitement. On balance I would probably keep them, but I'm not too fussed either way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank von Hell Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Sturgeon in full nanny state mode by telling the good people of Scotland they can't be trusted to sit in their own homes and watch closed doors games on their TVs. Meanwhile just watch all the other countries do just that in the next few months. RIP Scottish fitba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Hank von Hell said: Sturgeon in full nanny state mode by telling the good people of Scotland they can't be trusted to sit in their own homes and watch closed doors games on their TVs. Meanwhile just watch all the other countries do just that in the next few months. RIP Scottish fitba The good people of Scotland couldn't be trusted not to go to the pub the day before lockdown began to be fair 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Sturgeon in full nanny state mode by telling the good people of Scotland they can't be trusted to sit in their own homes and watch closed doors games on their TVs. Meanwhile just watch all the other countries do just that in the next few months. RIP Scottish fitba Trying behind closed doors would kill virtually every club in Scotland, but you feel free to blame a politician. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Also: she never ruled it out. She got flung with a question out of the blue and gave a pragmatic answer that it is something that would need to be considered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAR Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 I take it that in the Livvie proposal the Premier is playing 26 matches before the split then an extra 12 or 14 games. This gives the Uglies 4 games & the rest of the top 6 up to two more home games against them. Not a bad proposal for the top league, why not replicate this for the teams below ? I'm fed up with the boredom of 10 team leagues & would also go with summer football which may be necessary when we restart. I'd rather have big leagues but no one wants to share out the loot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Sturgeon in full nanny state mode by telling the good people of Scotland they can't be trusted to sit in their own homes and watch closed doors games on their TVs. Meanwhile just watch all the other countries do just that in the next few months. RIP Scottish fitba Nothing to do with Nicola Sturgeon FFS Full wages + No gate money = No clubs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank von Hell Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Paco said: Trying behind closed doors would kill virtually every club in Scotland, but you feel free to blame a politician. I'm not blaming anyone, just making an observation. I'm all for a deep freeze of all football clubs , as I agree with you that closed doors games for a long period of time will kill all but a few (maybe even just be Celtic left) - I have been saying that on here for the last 2 weeks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank von Hell Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, San Starko Rover said: Nothing to do with Nicola Sturgeon FFS Full wages + No gate money = No clubs If it's nothing to do with her why was she asked and why did she answer. Anyway see my answer above. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank von Hell Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, AsimButtHitsASix said: Also: she never ruled it out. She got flung with a question out of the blue and gave a pragmatic answer that it is something that would need to be considered. She said "If a match is being played behind closed doors but is still on television, the danger is people will still congregate together in groups to watch that." I get what she is saying but what happens when the EPL returns behind closed doors and on TV - what then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIT THE CHANNEL Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 I think that if crowds at entertainment venues (including football stadiums) are to be banned until there is effectively a vaccine rolled out (maybe sometime between August-December 2021?), then outside of the top 3-4 leagues football will have to be postponed. Clubs could not afford to have full squads but no match day revenue. To take the Rovers as one example. Currently we have 9 players signed for next year (two of which are 16 y.o. apprentices). It would be madness to sign 13-15 new players on full, full-time, championship wages for a season of closed door games. It would kill us. To survive, we would be better not playing at all and finding a way to pay for those we have signed up already... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 If it's nothing to do with her why was she asked and why did she answer. Anyway see my answer above. I think ensuring the safety of the people of Scotland rather than the survival of football clubs was prevalent in her mind tbh.Imagine thinking people’s lives are more important than football ffs...... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 It doesnt really matter what answer Sturgeon gave or not, people are losing their life on a daily basis as a result of this illness and football will take the back seat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, Hank von Hell said: She said "If a match is being played behind closed doors but is still on television, the danger is people will still congregate together in groups to watch that." I get what she is saying but what happens when the EPL returns behind closed doors and on TV - what then? You do realise that the things Nicola Sturgeon says aren't just random solutions she's thought up and generally her advice is backed up by medical experts, yes? I'm sure if it were safe to do so Sturgeon would be delighted to see football return, evidently it's not and evidently we cannot trust people because the police are still going round breaking up hundreds of house parties. You think house parties would increase or decrease when the only way to watch football is with a Sky or Amazon account? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggerG Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 29 minutes ago, Hank von Hell said: She said "If a match is being played behind closed doors but is still on television, the danger is people will still congregate together in groups to watch that." I get what she is saying but what happens when the EPL returns behind closed doors and on TV - what then? Has that Dawson Park clown hacked your account? People absolutely would ignore the social distancing rules and congregate in each other's houses to watch matches. I can just picture a dozen or more sevco fans sitting in a house with their taps on and beer bellies hanging out, getting pished and watching sellic hump them, then meeting the dozen or so sellic fans from across the road in the middle of the street when the game ends! If the EPL returns as you suggest, then they'll accelerate the spread of the virus because, they too, would gather in houses. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhereman Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 It would take a long time but if the money was divided equally then the leagues would be a lot more even and there would be less cannon fodder gamesCouldn’t agree more but that goes back to letting the home team keep the gate money rather than splitting it. That was the real start of the divide. It has of course got progressively worse since then and won’t be turning back the way any time soon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Nowhereman said: Couldn’t agree more but that goes back to letting the home team keep the gate money rather than splitting it. That was the real start of the divide. It has of course got progressively worse since then and won’t be turning back the way any time soon A great point here. Why does the home team keep gate money in league matches? Clubs regularly end up going full months with only 1 week of income. It's madness, but the top clubs don't like sharing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde01 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 The Livi proposal seems reasonable but would keep playoffs as they are and bring the premier league playoff inline with that. There’s no way that 2 relegation spots in league 2 would gain support. 1 automatic relegation spot so that the HL/LL playoff winner gains automatic promotion is more realistic (and should happen) although even then I’m sceptical it would be supported by league 2 clubs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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