Shadwell Dog Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Fūck off. He and Ballantyne were the architects of the idea to put Rangers in the second tier. I still think he did a lot more positive stuff than doncaster though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Shadwell Dog said: I still think he did a lot more positive stuff than doncaster though. Bollocks, he was a wee toad. What exactly did he do? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Bollocks, he was a wee toad. What exactly did he do? I thought he was a lot better at getting sponsorship deals in place for the lower leagues considering he was selling a product with very limited appeal. Doncaster has proven himself completely useless at doing this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: I thought he was a lot better at getting sponsorship deals in place for the lower leagues considering he was selling a product with very limited appeal. Doncaster has proven himself completely useless at doing this. Neither of them should've got near it. But I agree Longmuir should come back... To hand back his unauthorised £100k departure bonus. Eta, the irn bru deal gave clubs more ginger than it did money. Edited May 3, 2020 by Sergeant Wilson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesser Is More Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 5 hours ago, kvz2000 said: Definitely down south where the media are owned by millionaires who help finance the Tory government, meanwhile up here our FM and government get a terrible time Keep this shite for your sybernat forums. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Shadwell Dog said: I thought he was a lot better at getting sponsorship deals in place for the lower leagues considering he was selling a product with very limited appeal. Doncaster has proven himself completely useless at doing this. Is there any evidence at all of this? Under Longmuir, the SFL made almost no money whatsoever for its clubs and operated as a complete closed shop. The total league prize money in the final year of the SFL was something like £1.5m. Under the SPFL, thanks to the record TV deal, and the Ladbrokes deal, the lower leagues took home £4.5m in prize money in 2018/19. Clubs in the Championship made something in the region of £3m, with the winners of that league getting £562k, which roughly as much as the whole league took in under the SFL. This was due to increase substantially with the new TV deal too. Would Longmuir, a man with absolutely no experience of securing TV deals or big money sponsorship have managed that? It would have been like getting the owner of the local cornershop to run Tesco. Edited May 3, 2020 by craigkillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Is there any evidence at all of this? Under Longmuir, the SFL made almost no money whatsoever for its clubs and operated as a complete closed shop. The total league prize money in the final year of the SFL was something like £1.5m. Under the SPFL, thanks to the record TV deal, and the Ladbrokes deal, the lower leagues took home £4.5m in prize money in 2018/19. Clubs in the Championship made something in the region of £3m, with the winners of that league getting £562k, which roughly as much as the whole league took in under the SFL. This was due to increase substantially with the new TV deal too. Would Longmuir, a man with absolutely no experience of securing TV deals or big money sponsorship have managed that? It would have been like getting the owner of the local cornershop to run Tesco. I had a look after @Shadwell Dog posted. Longmuir retained CIS in the League Cup, got Alba and Ramsdens for the Challenge Cup and irn bru for the League. The Scottish Government dug them out a hole when CIS packed it in CIS was a long-standing sponsor, the less said about Ramsdens the better, Alba were covering games and got it virtually free and irn bru partially paid in ginger. That's before the Rangers and bonus issues. I met him and he claimed to have went Airdrie games as a kid. He couldn't name a player, who he went with and no-one I know remembers him...apart from that... Edited May 3, 2020 by Sergeant Wilson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
embow Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Fūck off. He and Ballantyne were the architects of the idea to put Rangers in the second tier. And they were bloody lucky they got the fourth tier gig. Should have been put to rest for ever more. Thought because they'd been Billy big boys with masses (oops!) of fans supposedly generating loads of money in Scottish football that liquidation was of no great concern. Any other club (especially a newly formed one) and other than the one in the Parkhead area of Glasgow would never have been given that chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers_Lad Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Airdrie76 said: A hard hitting interview where Doncaster leaves the call after stating no one approached him or anyone else about bullying. Only for Tom English to come on immediately after and state a Chief Exec of a club had text him during the interview to say they had raised concerns of bullying with Doncaster on the day of the vote. Great. Glad it’s all sorted. Pity the CE didnt have the baws to actually phone in and put himself/herself out there instead of a sneaky wee txt to English(if he actually received one) Its akin to a school kid snitching on someone to the teacher No time for Doncaster and the suits but personally hope Rangers fall on their arse with their evidence Edited May 3, 2020 by Rovers_Lad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Scottish football stares into the abyss and Rangers still persist with the spoiled-brat routine. Fucking cretins. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haufdaft Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 17 hours ago, Rovers_Lad said: Pity the CE didnt have the baws to actually phone in and put himself/herself out there instead of a sneaky wee txt to English(if he actually received one) Its akin to a school kid snitching on someone to the teacher No time for Doncaster and the suits but personally hope Rangers fall on their arse with their evidence Perhaps it says more about a culture of fear that the CE wants to stay anonymous. Blaming the bullied for "snitching" is not a good look. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers_Lad Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) Really? Edited May 4, 2020 by Rovers_Lad -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydog Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 I think I know what Turnbull Hutton would have said 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank von Hell Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 15 hours ago, George Parr said: Scottish football stares into the abyss and Rangers still persist with the spoiled-brat routine. Fucking cretins. It seems to have originated ,or at least got much worse, since James Traynor went there. Fell out with the BBC , Daily Record and now the SPFL. All the poisonous statements are definitely his work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydog Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Hank von Hell said: It seems to have originated ,or at least got much worse, since James Traynor went there. Fell out with the BBC , Daily Record and now the SPFL. All the poisonous statements are definitely his work. But will it improve now he's gone? Probably not! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specky Ginger Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Scottydog said: But will it improve now he's gone? Probably not! He hasn't 'gone'. He's not directly employed by the Rangers now, but his company have the contract for their PR / Media Relations. It's amazing how ra Bears hated Traynor when he was employed by them (and along with the kit man etc trousered a six figure bonus for winning the 3rd division), but now they hang on his every word in all these statements he scripts for them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haufdaft Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Reports that the preferred option is 14-14-16 with Brora & Kelty Hearts into bottom tier. So not only are Clyde and others relegated to the bottom tier and Cove Rangers not promoted, prize money will be divided by 44 instead of 42. All to save Hearts from one season in the championship. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FREDDYFRY Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 42 minutes ago, haufdaft said: Reports that the preferred option is 14-14-16 with Brora & Kelty Hearts into bottom tier. So not only are Clyde and others relegated to the bottom tier and Cove Rangers not promoted, prize money will be divided by 44 instead of 42. All to save Hearts from one season in the championship. That is 100% worst case scenario for us. Awful decision if true! As you say at least Hearts are safe. If comes to fruition is there a direct contact address to Ann Budge to ask her to defend the “no disadvantage” to any club statement or is the statement only for Hearts? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 53 minutes ago, haufdaft said: Reports that the preferred option is 14-14-16 with Brora & Kelty Hearts into bottom tier. So not only are Clyde and others relegated to the bottom tier and Cove Rangers not promoted, prize money will be divided by 44 instead of 42. All to save Hearts from one season in the championship. It's clearly not just to save Hearts. If 14/14/16 gets voted through it'll require 75% of clubs to vote for it. Why would all those clubs only care about not relegating Hearts? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde01 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Reports that the preferred option is 14-14-16 with Brora & Kelty Hearts into bottom tier. So not only are Clyde and others relegated to the bottom tier and Cove Rangers not promoted, prize money will be divided by 44 instead of 42. All to save Hearts from one season in the championship. On reflection cove are probably quite happy. Their path to the second tier is significantly easier than it would have otherwise been. Plus being new members of the SPFL they won’t have the same ‘repetition fatigue’ issues with playing mainly the same sides again. Unfortunately ourselves, Peterhead and Forfar are getting absolutely screwed. Stranraer less so as they have been abysmal, but why should hearts and thistle escape relegation and not Stranraer. (Before someone claims otherwise it’s a relegation on all but paper). Sadly I can’t see enough teams objecting to kick this into touch. Our best hope is premier league teams but an increased buffer from relegation (14 teams instead of 12) will probably be enough to sway most of them in favour. There should be financial compensation (parachute payment style) made available to Clyde, Peterhead and Forfar as a result of this, which I won’t hold me breath for but definitely something we should pursue. Automatic relegation from bottom tier is a must too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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