renton Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, Bantabairn said: Decent piece and common sense , therefore serious doubts over what will happen 14-14-14 would certainly solve most if not all of the issues, except that it involves a dilution of top league finances and a probable drop in number of OF derbies. The 2012 reconstruction scenario involved a complex mid season break out into three tiers of 8, all in the name of recovering those derbies (and tied to The Rangers being allowed into the 2and tier to affect a swift comeback). That kind of byzantine fucked up ladder might be the only thing that manages to pass, rather than the nice, simple, common sense scenario in the article. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said: The situation in Ethiopia had been going on for years before Bob Geldof done his thing - people were starving ffs. Andy Mill waited 2 mins before he started this. I can’t believe you are comparing people starving in Africa to people being asked to pay footballers that are being paid out with budget. As the Rovers fan representative on the board, he did what the fanbase was calling for: introducing a mechanism by which the fans could help the club. Can't honestly believe that people are trying to paint a fanbase trying to help its club in a negative light. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher brash Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 I appreciate your point of view Shadwell Dog but unfortunately most of the clubs couldnt have forseen a worldwide pandemic if Rovers did i would believe we would have went fully part time. Like you say Falkirk have still got money but you were fortunate that you made a few bob from selling players , reaching play offs in the champoinship but now that pile is getting smaller and smaller. You have to mind we have been stuck in division 1 for 3 years and our finances have are shocking so every penny is a prisoner We've fortunately got money in the bank to cover unforeseen circumstances . Sensible thing to do instead of spending it on players but then look where it's got us. Feck all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, renton said: 14-14-14 would certainly solve most if not all of the issues, except that it involves a dilution of top league finances and a probable drop in number of OF derbies. The 2012 reconstruction scenario involved a complex mid season break out into three tiers of 8, all in the name of recovering those derbies (and tied to The Rangers being allowed into the 2and tier to affect a swift comeback). That kind of byzantine fucked up ladder might be the only thing that manages to pass, rather than the nice, simple, common sense scenario in the article. Wouldn't it need to be 14-14-16 to accommodate HL/LL champion who were due a play off? Otherwise fairness only extends to 42 clubs at a time we are supposed to be moving towards a proper pyramid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebanda's Handyman Services Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said: The situation in Ethiopia had been going on for years before Bob Geldof done his thing - people were starving ffs. Andy Mill waited 2 mins before he started this. I can’t believe you are comparing people starving in Africa to people being asked to pay footballers that are being paid out with budget. I thought it was fairly obvious that I was being facetious. Maybe you just enjoy being sanctimonious? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, RavyDavy said: So you agree that that was complete BS and it's all about keeping Dundee Utd in the league then? Sounds like a legit reason to screw the rest of scottish football. 100% agree with our chairman. Dundee are doing what's best for them. Their not going to vote yes.if it's going to shaft themselves. Just the same as raith aren't going to vote no and screw themselves. 42 teams have all voted the way it suits their clubs one way or the other. I've no issue with dundee voting no just as I've no issue with raith voting yes. Edited April 12, 2020 by Shadwell Dog 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavyDavy Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 As the Rovers fan representative on the board, he did what the fanbase was calling for: introducing a mechanism by which the fans could help the club. Can't honestly believe that people are trying to paint a fanbase trying to help its club in a negative light.Falkirk fan trying to justify some kind of agenda that they seem to have against the majority of scottish football 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, basher brash said: I appreciate your point of view Shadwell Dog but unfortunately most of the clubs couldnt have forseen a worldwide pandemic if Rovers did i would believe we would have went fully part time. Like you say Falkirk have still got money but you were fortunate that you made a few bob from selling players , reaching play offs in the champoinship but now that pile is getting smaller and smaller. You have to mind we have been stuck in division 1 for 3 years and our finances have are shocking so every penny is a prisoner It's why handing out the prize money should've been a no brainer and then let's sort the sodding rest of the bull shit out after that. This no one getting any cash till we have a bun fight over promotion relegation and reconstruction has been quite frankly ludicrous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebanda's Handyman Services Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Currently compiling a list of charities that I'm going to claim money back from if I hit hard times. Cancer research Donkey sanctuary Bob Geldof Kirkcaldy food bank Helping hands monkey helpers Guide dogs for the blind 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, renton said: As the Rovers fan representative on the board, he did what the fanbase was calling for: introducing a mechanism by which the fans could help the club. Can't honestly believe that people are trying to paint a fanbase trying to help its club in a negative light. I just don’t think it’s the right time to go begging to the public to pay footballers wages mate. If people are happy to spend what they have on that then fair play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specky Ginger Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Bantabairn said: SD These are the agreed payouts for full season, will post what’s left to be paid Ladbrokes Premiership 1st - 13.40% - £3,350,000 2nd - 9.60% - £2,400,000 3rd - 8.25% - £2,062,500 4th - 7.25% - £1,812,500 5th - 6.75% - £1,687,500 6th - 6.25% - £1,562,500 7th - 5.75% - £1,437,500 8th - 5.50% - £1,375,000 9th - 5.25% - £1,312,500 10th -5.00% - £1,250,000 11th - 4.75% - £1,187,500 12th - 4.50% - £1,125,000 Ladbrokes Championship 1st - 2.25% - £562,500 2nd - 1.90% - £475,000 3rd - 1.60% - £400,000 4th - 1.30% - £325,000 5th - 1.00% - £250,000 6th - 0.90% - £225,000 7th - 0.85% - £212,500 8th - 0.80% - £200,000 9th - 0.75% - £187,500 10th - 0.70% - £175,000 Ladbrokes League 1 1st - 0.50% - £125,000 2nd - 0.43% - £107,500 3rd - 0.35% - £87,500 4th - 0.34% - £85,000 5th - 0.33% - £82,500 6th - 0.32% - £80,000 7th - 0.31% - £77,500 8th - 0.30% - £75,000 9th - 0.29% - £72,500 10th - 0.28% - £70,000 Ladbrokes League 2 1st - 0.27% - £67,500 2nd - 0.26% - £65,000 3rd - 0.25% - £62,500 4th - 0.24% - £60,000 5th - 0.23% - £57,500 6th - 0.22% - £55,000 7th - 0.21% - £52,500 8th - 0.20% - £50,000 9th - 0.19% - £47,500 10th - 0.18% - £45,000 Regardless of whether these are last season's or this season's fugures, and regardless of which way clubs voted on Friday, isn't the biggest scandal in all of this that the team finishing 5th in the championship receives less in prize money than Neil Doncaster receives as a basic salary? Chuck in the 91 grand bonus he received last season (for f**k knows what) and it's not to difficult to see why Scottish football is bleeding through its arse. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ecosse83 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Reports now suggesting UEFA could be about to abandon the season. No wonder they tried to rush through the vote in the space of 48 hours. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specky Ginger Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said: I just don’t think it’s the right time to go begging to the public to pay footballers wages mate. If people are happy to spend what they have on that then fair play. I'm self employed (sole trader) and therefore not earning a bean at the moment, until I might get my BoJo bonus in June, but others are still working from home on full pay, with much less outgoings at the moment (travel to work etc), so if they choose to use some of their income to support the Rovers, it's entirely a matter for them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Reports now suggesting UEFA could be about to abandon the season. No wonder they tried to rush through the vote in the space of 48 hours. The SPFL agree with that and were also trying to abandon the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirscottyoung Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 And they really make the point as to why the top flight doesn’t want to expand the league any further. Another two teams in the bottom tier would require around £100k in prize money, which would have to come from the top flight. That would render their business model completely unsustainable.The prize fund going from £25m a year to £30m a year. Sure the extra £200k is sustainable hahaha 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said: I just don’t think it’s the right time to go begging to the public to pay footballers wages mate. If people are happy to spend what they have on that then fair play. Presume you wont be buying a season ticket, merchandise or contributing to Falkirk FC in any way until the virus is gone? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ecosse83 said: Reports now suggesting UEFA could be about to abandon the season. No wonder they tried to rush through the vote in the space of 48 hours. Presumably all that would do is get rid of the caveat about having the top league delay their cessation and instead stop when the rest of us do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvz2000 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 13 hours ago, Zen Archer Esq. said: Do you see turkey's voting for Christmas? The top flight especially would piss themselves laughing if you mentioned this. Sorry that’s not exactly what I meant , what I mean is take the total money for each league and split it evenly between the teams in that league so NO bigger amount for teams at the top ....it could be done now straight away and take the financial pressure off all clubs for a while at least and work out the rest later ..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher brash Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 You don’t don’t need to pay the 20% if you furlough. If the club / company cannot afford to to so, there is no requirement to do so. So that part does not need to drain your clubs resources.You maybe right but this came from the Rovers chairman on the website . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ecosse83 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, craigkillie said: 4 minutes ago, Ecosse83 said: Reports now suggesting UEFA could be about to abandon the season. No wonder they tried to rush through the vote in the space of 48 hours. The SPFL agree with that and were also trying to abandon the season. The question is how will UEFA abandon it? They might just make it all null and void! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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