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League Reconstruction
My proposal is this: 
Tier 1: 14 teams, and a split involving the top six and bottom eight clubs. Sides will play each other home and away before and after the split. The sides in the top six will play fewer games, but they will be more likely to progress in the cups, be playing in Europe and will usually be playing the bigger clubs (Old Firm, Edinburgh clubs and Aberdeen).  
Tier 2: 14 teams, and a 6/8 split, too. Same formay as Tier 1. The top two getting automatic promotion and the other four involved in play-offs will compensate for playing fewer games than the bottom eight. 
Tier 3: Would be regionalised - less travel, more local derbies. Again, I would include 14 clubs in each with the same format as above. At the end of the season the top side from each league would be promoted and the sides finishing third, fourth and fifth in each league will play a knock out tournament, with the winner being promoted also.
Any thoughts, modifications, criticism welcome. 

No one cares about what some dosser on a football forum has drawn up in 5 minutes. Modify that.
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5 minutes ago, The Reverend said:

League Reconstruction

My proposal is this: 

Tier 1: 14 teams, and a split involving the top six and bottom eight clubs. Sides will play each other home and away before and after the split. The sides in the top six will play fewer games, but they will be more likely to progress in the cups, be playing in Europe and will usually be playing the bigger clubs (Old Firm, Edinburgh clubs and Aberdeen).  

Tier 2: 14 teams, and a 6/8 split, too. Same formay as Tier 1. The top two getting automatic promotion and the other four involved in play-offs will compensate for playing fewer games than the bottom eight. 

Tier 3: Would be regionalised - less travel, more local derbies. Again, I would include 14 clubs in each with the same format as above. At the end of the season the top side from each league would be promoted and the sides finishing third, fourth and fifth in each league will play a knock out tournament, with the winner being promoted also.

Any thoughts, modifications, criticism welcome. 

I like it.

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47 minutes ago, foreverarover said:

Forfar chairman on Radio Scotland . Someone who is actually seeing sense in this situation. 

He gave a very good and honest interview

Was actually shocked to hear him say that the payment they would receive on any pay out would only be £3700 so on that basis a fair chunk of prize money must have already been paid out so their  vote had nothing to do with money.The club needed clarity so they could start planning knowing the league they,ll play in,players,contracts etc  and cant remember his exact words but was quite open how they,d benefit if Partick were relegated and still having Falkirk in the league

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1 hour ago, inreganhendrywetrust said:

 


Did Clyde not beat you boys twice this season ?

 

Not sure why that is relevant. Beating us doesn’t win you the league pal. Would Clyde be more or less likely to win a league that didn’t include us, Raith, Thistle, Airdrie...

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Why are people swallowing this line that the SPFL have deliberately lost Dundee’s vote?

Evidently Eric Drysdale has told Championship chairmen Dundee have submitted a No vote. The SPFL dispute this. If you’re Dundee, and you want to vote no, surely you just send it again and save all this hassle?

Release a simple statement saying we’ve been told the SPFL haven’t received our vote so we’ve sent it again. For the avoidance of doubt, we’ve voted no.

But they aren’t doing that. They’re quite clearly angling for something. Everything else is just a sideshow drama.

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8 minutes ago, The Reverend said:

League Reconstruction

My proposal is this: 

Tier 1: 14 teams, and a split involving the top six and bottom eight clubs. Sides will play each other home and away before and after the split. The sides in the top six will play fewer games, but they will be more likely to progress in the cups, be playing in Europe and will usually be playing the bigger clubs (Old Firm, Edinburgh clubs and Aberdeen).  

Tier 2: 14 teams, and a 6/8 split, too. Same formay as Tier 1. The top two getting automatic promotion and the other four involved in play-offs will compensate for playing fewer games than the bottom eight. 

Tier 3: Would be regionalised - less travel, more local derbies. Again, I would include 14 clubs in each with the same format as above. At the end of the season the top side from each league would be promoted and the sides finishing third, fourth and fifth in each league will play a knock out tournament, with the winner being promoted also.

Any thoughts, modifications, criticism welcome. 

What about the teams that finish 2nd in each of the regional divisions?

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54 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

Ah well if its more than we used to get we should just ignore the glaring difference that still exists.

That wasn't the point - the point was that posters have said that the lower league clubs are relying on this money to stay afloat, and yet are also drawing up reconstruction plans that would definitely reduce that prize money substantially.

 

 

48 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said:

So dundee voted no. Handed it in and the spfl mysteriously lost it.  Incredible stuff by cockwomble to try and not have a no vote.

If it was as simple as this then Dundee would just come out and say so. Dundee have said absolutely nothing, which suggests they were being less than truthful to their fellow Championship sides.

 

 

12 minutes ago, Gordon EF said:

What's to stop them changing that through a vote?

This has been my preferred option from the start. Vote to give out prize money based on current placings (or some smoother averaged amount) and make a decision on the league outcome later.

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11 minutes ago, Paco said:

Why are people swallowing this line that the SPFL have deliberately lost Dundee’s vote?

Evidently Eric Drysdale has told Championship chairmen Dundee have submitted a No vote. The SPFL dispute this. If you’re Dundee, and you want to vote no, surely you just send it again and save all this hassle?

Release a simple statement saying we’ve been told the SPFL haven’t received our vote so we’ve sent it again. For the avoidance of doubt, we’ve voted no.

But they aren’t doing that. They’re quite clearly angling for something. Everything else is just a sideshow drama.

Maybe more down the line of dundee put there vote in which would scupper the deal. Cockwomble then says to them if you vote no the deals scuppered.  Dont be hasty. Your vote doesnt have to be in for a while yet. We'll have a wee chat over the weekend and see if we can allay any fears and then you can vote monday. Ok? Will be interesting to see what the whistleblower comes up with. The ICT director saw Dundee no vote on WhatsApp and dundee telling the clubs they had voted. Something then happened to that vote.

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1 minute ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

That'll be six teams playing a knockout competition.

Aye, the sides finishing third could play the sides finishing fourth in the corresponding league (perhaps a one-off game with home advantage?). The winners then play the sides finishing second.

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3 minutes ago, The Reverend said:

Aye, the sides finishing third could play the sides finishing fourth in the corresponding league (perhaps a one-off game with home advantage?). The winners then play the sides finishing second.

Why would any one from a cross division play off be granted home advantage?

You'll have guessed that I think you're making this up as you go along. Wouldn't it be better to take a more measured approach?

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6 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said:

The ICT director saw Dundee no vote on WhatsApp and dundee telling the clubs they had voted. Something then happened to that vote.

You have three competing theories:

1) Dundee didn't send it.

2) Dundee did send it, the SPFL didn't get it, and Dundee decided for some reason not to just resend it once that was confirmed.

3) Dundee sent it, the SPFL did get it but claimed not to, and Dundee decided not to do a single thing about it.

 

Which of these seems most and least likely to you?

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You can ell this is douglas parks first experience of cockwombles squad.

Park said: "The lack of leadership and responsibility from the SPFL as a members’ organisation has shocked me.'

Really? It certainly hasn't shocked anyone else that follows scottish football.

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2 minutes ago, craigkillie said:

You have three competing theories:

1) Dundee didn't send it.

2) Dundee did send it, the SPFL didn't get it, and Dundee decided for some reason not to just resend it once that was confirmed.

3) Dundee sent it, the SPFL did get it but claimed not to, and Dundee decided not to do a single thing about it.

 

Which of these seems most and least likely to you?

4) They have been dangled a carrot by Doncaster ????

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4 minutes ago, craigkillie said:

You have three competing theories:

1) Dundee didn't send it.

2) Dundee did send it, the SPFL didn't get it, and Dundee decided for some reason not to just resend it once that was confirmed.

3) Dundee sent it, the SPFL did get it but claimed not to, and Dundee decided not to do a single thing about it.

 

Which of these seems most and least likely to you?

To be honest I think I'll ust wait and see what the whistleblower comes up with.  The only facts are that dundee were voting no and told other clubs they had sent in their vote.  Something a bit dodgy happened after that  and neither dundee or the spfl seemed at all keen for the vote to be submitted again straight away. We'll just need to see what comes out in the wash.

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