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3 minutes ago, Whitburn Vale said:

Aye there will be enough clubs,we've got a pyramid system now and there's plenty of life below League 2.

The only way George Fraser and Rod Houston should be conforming to 14,14,14 is by getting automatic relegation for 20/21 for club 42.

 

If the rules state automatic relegation then them's the rules and all clubs will have to abide by these including my club

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42 minutes ago, gogsy said:

Probably because the SPFL clubs wouldn't have agreed to it.

More likely is that  when the pyramid system was created,  the Lowland and Highland leagues were just glad of any opportunity to enter the league . 

Had the Covid situation not happened , I have a feeling that the current set up would have been accepted for the immediate future. 

Unfortunately the situation did happen and has highlighted the fragility of the set up after the unprecedented cycle of events .  The challenge now is to get everyone to agree to a workable system and put hard and fast regulations  in place to prevent  these arguments happening again. 

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1 hour ago, craigkillie said:

The Highland and Lowland Leagues had to (and still have to) take what they are given. They have no direct say or voting power in this process whatsoever.

And neither should they. The SPFL is an organisation meant to be run by and for the 42 member Clubs. I don’t understand why they were invited to sit on the reconstruction group when all member Clubs could not.

Im not against the lowland or highland league teams or the pyramid but we are faced with every spfl Club taking some pain either financially or structurally or both. 
To allow Kelty and Brora in and then continue the pyramid next season would be a win win win for them and in football terms would make Coronavirus the best thing to happen to those leagues in years.

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12 minutes ago, Brazilianlex said:

And neither should they. The SPFL is an organisation meant to be run by and for the 42 member Clubs. I don’t understand why they were invited to sit on the reconstruction group when all member Clubs could not.

If the eventual reconstruction plan involves any change to the Pyramid Play Off then both of those leagues will have to approve it. That's as good a reason as any - not worth the SPFL drawing something up that they can't follow through on.

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No excuses not to offer a place next season for Kelty and Brora. 16 teams playing once home and away, then a split into two seven team groups giving six final games.

No point chirruping about self-interest in other leagues when the wagons are circled on our turf, too.

That said I think the likes of Budge and Gray running this league structure review have probably barely heard of Kelty and Brora let alone be interested in addressing the promotion dilemma the early curtailment of the season has thrown up.

Poor stuff.

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1 hour ago, gogsy said:

They shouldn't be allowed in for next season though, just allow automatic promotion from next season for the winners of  Highland League v Lowland league play off and the bottom team gets relegated from the lowest SPFL division. Honestly cant see the need for changing the 10-10-10-10 set up anyway but if it goes to 14-14-14 surely its not too much to ask for one team to go down automatically?

I don’t disagree with the concept but the truth is the spfl are doing somersaults to keep Hearts up. To move to automatic pyramid next season is still unfair. Spfl Clubs are skint and will be sitting ducks and also could be a shortened season so using the sporting integrity argument loved by the Premier teams, I don’t think that would be fair. Season after fair enough.

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8 minutes ago, gogsy said:

All clubs are losing out financially at the moment though not just SPFL teams.

Probably but spfl Clubs more so I would suggest.

Kelty for example play and train in a Fife Council facility which is closed so no bills there. Cowden on the other hand will still have rates, leccy, gas, water.

most people just seem to think the bills just relate to  players wages but it’s much more than that.

 

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22 minutes ago, Brazilianlex said:

Have you read the lowland league statement for the end of season. 2nd paragraph is worth a read !

Did you read it? They mention contingency plans to cover the impacted Tier 6 leagues, and all indications are that Bo'ness will be promoted if they can get their license approved by the SFA. Meanwhile the League 2 clubs are basically just sticking two fingers up and saying "not our problem".

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15 minutes ago, craigkillie said:

Did you read it? They mention contingency plans to cover the impacted Tier 6 leagues, and all indications are that Bo'ness will be promoted if they can get their license approved by the SFA. Meanwhile the League 2 clubs are basically just sticking two fingers up and saying "not our problem".

Where are the contingency plans ?

The spfl set up a working group, one option is to add two clubs but refuses to say how they will be funded. And that’s somehow Div 2 Clubs to blame ?

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3 hours ago, Brazilianlex said:

Where are the contingency plans ?

The spfl set up a working group, one option is to add two clubs but refuses to say how they will be funded. And that’s somehow Div 2 Clubs to blame ?

I've just told you what it appears the contingency plans are - namely to promote Bo'ness from the EoS and run with an extra team next season. This has not been confirmed but the people in the know on here and elsewhere have suggested this is likely. Presumably the SoS champions would also have been promoted, but Stranraer Reserves are likely to be awarded that league and they are not eligible for promotion.

It would cost about £80k in prize money to add two extra teams to League 2 - it is pennies in the grand scheme of things given that the total prize money last season was £25m. What the League 2 clubs are "to blame" for is the laughable suggestion that the Highland and Lowland League have not fulfilled their obligations to the pyramid. In fact, the SPFL, by unilaterally cancelling the Pyramid Play Off despite not having the authority to do so, are the ones who have not fulfilled their obligations. The actual scrapping of the play off is obviously understandable in the circumstances, but the rhetoric is not.

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