theoriginalhedge Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 9 hours ago, gogsy said: Working group wont decide anything, they can make a recommendation and the clubs will say yes or no. I noticed a fans survey on facebook that the supporters trust have put out. I went through it but it is all a bit tame. Questions like do you think it is important for the SPFL and SFA to listen to the fans ???? f**k me ! If they haven't even got past that stage of thinking then there is no fucking hope of anything positive happening in the near future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesser Is More Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Bigger leagues throughout surely. The 10 clubl Premier league was a complete failure and it took them far too long to admit it. The present setup wasn't popular and hasn't worked. How many attempts do they need to get it right? Come on Task force or whatever, Its not difficult. Bigger leagues throughout and Summer football in 2021. Just get it f. . . . .g done. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 5 hours ago, Andy groundhopper said: The Premier are acting like a 'closed shop' where only the elite and 'invited clubs' can enter. Let's have no relegation ever, with the bottom side playing the championship winners over so many legs until they get what they want,priceless. Hearts may go down ? Boo Hoo just grow up and bounce back straight away,simples. Makes one lose interest in the whole carry on. An interesting post on the League 2 forum, given that this division has exactly no automatic relegation spots. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realmadrid Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 On 19/04/2020 at 20:36, Lesser Is More said: Bigger leagues throughout surely. The 10 clubl Premier league was a complete failure and it took them far too long to admit it. The present setup wasn't popular and hasn't worked. How many attempts do they need to get it right? Come on Task force or whatever, Its not difficult. Bigger leagues throughout and Summer football in 2021. Just get it f. . . . .g done. The 10 team league was in no way a failure 2 European finals in the 80's (3 if you count the super cup) and all by non old firm team 12 team league has also had 2 European finalists, its ups and downs in European rankings and the split makes most games live until the last day of the season. The period 2010-2016 also had a good number of teams share in winning cups, yes the league has been with the old firm for far to long but moving to 14, 16 or 18 won't change that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbionMan Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 7 hours ago, realmadrid said: The 10 team league was in no way a failure 2 European finals in the 80's (3 if you count the super cup) and all by non old firm team 12 team league has also had 2 European finalists, its ups and downs in European rankings and the split makes most games live until the last day of the season. The period 2010-2016 also had a good number of teams share in winning cups, yes the league has been with the old firm for far to long but moving to 14, 16 or 18 won't change that. You're right there, it was the breakaway to form the SPFL not the 10/12 team top league which has been the failure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 30 minutes ago, AlbionMan said: You're right there, it was the breakaway to form the SPFL not the 10/12 team top league which has been the failure. The breakaway was to form the SPL in 1998. The SPL and SFL reunited to form the SPFL in 2013. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom & Gerry Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 On 19/04/2020 at 20:36, Lesser Is More said: Bigger leagues throughout surely. The 10 clubl Premier league was a complete failure and it took them far too long to admit it. The present setup wasn't popular and hasn't worked. How many attempts do they need to get it right? Come on Task force or whatever, Its not difficult. Bigger leagues throughout and Summer football in 2021. Just get it f. . . . .g done. You might not be old enough to remember the old first and second divisions, more teams and no end of meaningless games watched by poor crowds with no atmosphere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilianlex Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 A bit ironic that in the news today other countries want to copy our 10 team top league ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoriginalhedge Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Brazilianlex said: A bit ironic that in the news today other countries want to copy our 10 team top league ! Our top league has 12 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilianlex Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 hours ago, theoriginalhedge said: Our top league has 12 That’s what I meant, thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipper Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 11 hours ago, Thom & Gerry said: You might not be old enough to remember the old first and second divisions, more teams and no end of meaningless games watched by poor crowds with no atmosphere. I'm certainly old enough. My memory is of a never ending stream of talented footballers being produced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Graft Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 6 hours ago, Nipper said: I'm certainly old enough. My memory is of a never ending stream of talented footballers being produced. Same here - meaningless games but the opportunity to blood young talent and also games where the fear of losing was not so great. Is it not the case that Scottish transfers to England and the number of World Cups we qualified for were higher before the SPL was introduced? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The man with no name Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 18 hours ago, Thom & Gerry said: You might not be old enough to remember the old first and second divisions, more teams and no end of meaningless games watched by poor crowds with no atmosphere. What is a meaningless game? Every game I've been to I've wanted my team to win. I'm sure players and coaches are the same! Just because you can't win promotion or avoid relegation doesn't make a game meaningless! Games that involve teams not fighting for promotion or trying to avoid relegation tend to be more open with both teams going for it as there is less pressure on the team that loses! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom & Gerry Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 You would think thatbut. As for endless stream of players going to England. It was a different era, there was not an endless stream of players from all parts of the world going to England and there was a hell of a lot more young players to pick from as that was still the era of kids playing fitba and not computer games etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberdeen Cowden Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 41 minutes ago, Thom & Gerry said: You would think thatbut. As for endless stream of players going to England. It was a different era, there was not an endless stream of players from all parts of the world going to England and there was a hell of a lot more young players to pick from as that was still the era of kids playing fitba and not computer games etc. Correct, nothing at all to do with the SPL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Thom & Gerry said: You would think thatbut. As for endless stream of players going to England. It was a different era, there was not an endless stream of players from all parts of the world going to England and there was a hell of a lot more young players to pick from as that was still the era of kids playing fitba and not computer games etc. This thread seems to have become home to some misty eyed nostalgics harking back to 19neverhappened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilianlex Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 59 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: This thread seems to have become home to some misty eyed nostalgics harking back to 19neverhappened. I do remember the Cowdenbeath miners working 23 hours down the pit then running straight on to the pitch still wearing their pit boots and flat caps and beating Dunfermline 10-0 before returning to the mine for another 23 hour shift and all for tuppence hapenny they don’t make them like that anymore. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The man with no name Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Brazilianlex said: I do remember the Cowdenbeath miners working 23 hours down the pit then running straight on to the pitch still wearing their pit boots and flat caps and beating Dunfermline 10-0 before returning to the mine for another 23 hour shift and all for tuppence hapenny they don’t make them like that anymore. To be fair, with the state of the pitch at Central Park players should still be wearing pit boots 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberdeen Cowden Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 5 hours ago, The man with no name said: To be fair, with the state of the pitch at Central Park players should still be wearing pit boots Deary me. The Cowden pitch used to be one of the best playing surfaces in the country. You bored? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiders4ever Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Aberdeen Cowden said: Deary me. The Cowden pitch used to be one of the best playing surfaces in the country. You bored? Seriously when was that? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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