Ways things will change due to COVID-19

[vikingTON]

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Of course it does. A negative outcome moves the argument much further forward.

No it quite clearly doesn't. A negative outcome leads more people to conclude from their own experience that remote learning is impractical and encourages more stakeholders in the sector to dig in against it.

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Ultimately doesn't matter. They hold sway just now, but they'll be replaced by a new generation and the technology will continue to improve. It's miles better than it was a decade ago, for example. Industries change, and when they do the old guard tend to make a fuss.

Except that the education sector is not an 'industry' in the private sector sense of the word, which is why is still heavily reliant on technology and fundamental teaching methods that were devised in the 19th century if not earlier.

[craigkillie]

There are already vast differences in practice between universities different countries, so I can't imagine the UK sector changing its practices based on how successfully distance learning does or does not work elsewhere in Europe or around the world.

 

[Alert Mongoose]

I get that it suits some people but I find working from home shite.

[Fullerene]

1 hour ago, D.A.F.C said:

Need to reevaluate why capitalism rewards these type of people?
Being nasty and shitting all over others is seen as strength in business.
It's not.

Have you got what it takes to be a manager?

 

[DiegoDiego]

Need to reevaluate why capitalism rewards these type of people?

Being nasty and shitting all over others is seen as strength in business.

It's not.

My prediction is that we'll see an increase in idiots using the pandemic as a stick with which to beat capitalism and promote their tried and failed methods of governance.

 

The folks who ran communist, socialist, feudal et cetera countries were just as sociopathic as the fuds in charge now.

 

In reality the global left will take a hit as people become fearful of foreigners and public transport while becoming accustomed to an erosion of liberties.

 

[welshbairn]

7 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said:

I get that it suits some people but I find working from home shite.

Cheer up m8.

[HeartsOfficialMoaner]

Saying that Italy and Spain are being hit the hardest is misleading. These are enormous areas of land. Some of the regions may be okay.

Instead of this can we see where the virus is actually hitting? Is there a map to graph to see which cities or towns are being hit the hardest?

 

 

 

[HeartsOfficialMoaner]

17 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said:

I get that it suits some people but I find working from home shite.

Drink whisky and eat lots of food. 

[Scary Bear]

9 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Cheer up m8.

Clap, clap, clap

[craigkillie]

18 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said:

I get that it suits some people but I find working from home shite.

I think I'd enjoy it a bit more if I wasn't also doing everything else from home.

[DiegoDiego]

Saying that Italy and Spain are being hit the hardest is misleading. These are enormous areas of land. Some of the regions may be okay.
Instead of this can we see where the virus is actually hitting? Is there a map to graph to see which cities or towns are being hit the hardest?
 
 
 

For Italy, La Repubblica do a very good job, one of the maps is cases per province divided by population, which gives you a much clearer picture of reality. There's really not enough per capita data being given out.

https://lab.gedidigital.it/gedi-visual/2020/coronavirus-i-contagi-in-italia/

[throbber]

I get that it suits some people but I find working from home shite.

All working is shit. My girlfriend like millions of others in the world commutes 1.5 + hours a day, drops her toddler off in child care for a few hours for a sky high fee and goes to an office and sits at a computer screen all day to speak and deal with people who aren’t even in that office. There is absolutely nothing that she does in the office that she can’t do from home and this is the case for millions of workers in the UK, it’s really not a shit way of doing things.

[Guest JTS98]

31 minutes ago, craigkillie said:

There are already vast differences in practice between universities different countries, so I can't imagine the UK sector changing its practices based on how successfully distance learning does or does not work elsewhere in Europe or around the world.

 

UK universities are desperate for the money that foreign students bring in. There's no way they'll be left behind.

Anyway, the whole thing is very closely linked now. Plenty of universities and colleges have presences or partnerships all over the world. There's just no way the UK will stand still if other countries buy into this. Ultimately, they have to follow the money.

The localities of this aren't really important. It's about the technology being good enough to provide what students need better than the current system. Making it unnecessary for students to commute, or move if they don't want to, or juggle childcare, or giving them more flexible earning options while studying are all quite clear arguments in favour.

There's also a growing view that using tech to put more lectures etc online would free up time for research and give a lot of departments more justification for existence. All depends how it's done.

Many universities now have excellent access to library facilities and support online. There are clear challenges in terms of building academic relationships and providing the opportunity for proper questions and discussions, but fixing that isn't exactly putting a man on the moon.

Like I said, I can see both sides.

[Guest JTS98]

56 minutes ago, virginton said:

No it quite clearly doesn't. A negative outcome leads more people to conclude from their own experience that remote learning is impractical and encourages more stakeholders in the sector to dig in against it.

Except that the education sector is not an 'industry' in the private sector sense of the word, which is why is still heavily reliant on technology and fundamental teaching methods that were devised in the 19th century if not earlier.

Wow.

Where to start with that?

That's only true if you mean in the sense that some people still use pencils and the goal remains to impart information, develop skills, and develop the ability to learn.

[Terry Singh]

16 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

I think we could also see many businesses realise that they do not need such a big office space and that they could easily increase remote working, and possibly see the benefits of it. Many folk would really benefit from being able to work from home when needed, such as those with childcare issues. Folk like me would like even a day a week out of the office. It just breaks up the monotony. Unfortunately this will take longer as far too many businesses are still stuck in victorian ways of working in terms of Mon-Fri 9-5, and there are too many moron managers around who can't handle it.

This.

I'm WFH currently and can do 99% of what I need to do. Sadly I have one of those moron old skool managers you allude to and despite my previous requests it was a case of "It's an office based job" and my retort of "it doesn't need to be" fell on deaf ears.   He'll be hating all of us WFH indefinitely.

What I will be doing when we're back to normality is raising with the powers that be that every employee who can WFH should be given that opportunity at least once/twice a week. Better for the environment and better for work/life balance.

[Detournement]

It's clearly hitting areas with higher numbers of frequent flyers hardest. 

I was wondering about junkies. Will there be enough smack? Will they be able to hang about their usual haunts such as the back of shopping centres? 

[Detournement]

1 minute ago, Terry Singh said:

This.

I'm WFH currently and can do 99% of what I need to do. Sadly I have one of those moron old skool managers you allude to and despite my previous requests it was a case of "It's an office based job" and my retort of "it doesn't need to be" fell on deaf ears.   He'll be hating all of us WFH indefinitely.

What I will be doing when we're back to normality is raising with the powers that be that every employee who can WFH should be given that opportunity at least once/twice a week. Better for the environment and better for work/life balance.

It's 100 times more likely that they conclude that they don't need as many people and cut numbers. 

[Guest JTS98]

8 minutes ago, MixuFixit said:

yup:

 

One thing that will change because of all this is that Daegu will be famous for something other than being the venue of the fastest World Cup goal of all time.

I scored into that very goal once when my mate got me into the stadium because his father in law was one of the groundstaff. I think that makes me famous.

*When I say 'scored', I mean I kicked a ball into the empty net from about six yards. Counts.

Edited March 26, 2020 by JTS98

[Terry Singh]

Just now, Detournement said:

It's 100 times more likely that they conclude that they don't need as many people and cut numbers. 

There's that as well.

[Detournement]

Just now, Terry Singh said:

There's that as well.

Given that a fair percentage of everyone's workday is talking about non work related topics or talking about doing work rather than actually doing it there is probably fat to cut.