AL-FFC Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 It looks like null and void is definitely off the table and declaring the league positions as they stand isnt going to happen due to UEFA saying they will remove European slots if the SFA/SPFL do that one like Belgium. It seems as if the season carrys on once this is over is the general consensus though i think Raiths chairmen has said teams should have to carry out a mini pre season before the resumption as players wont be at full fitness. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofixedability Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 42 minutes ago, Scottydog said: N & V has zero constructive merit with regard to moving forward, also unless there is to be no UEFA club comps next season The one thing going for null and void is that it lets clubs know early what is happening and allows them to plan forward. At this level that is vital. As does finishing as is. Finishing the season is an absolute fantasy as is any form of restructuring. Sadly we will end up waiting to see what two clubs agree to by which time some clubs will be in quite a bit of bother. What happens in lower leagues has no impact on European leagues, who is to say what happens in Premier league will be replicated through lower leagues? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
As Easterly as it gets! Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, AL-FFC said: It looks like null and void is definitely off the table and declaring the league positions as they stand isnt going to happen due to UEFA saying they will remove European slots if the SFA/SPFL do that one like Belgium. It seems as if the season carrys on once this is over is the general consensus though i think Raiths chairmen has said teams should have to carry out a mini pre season before the resumption as players wont be at full fitness. And what, if anything would UEFA do if every association announced winners etc? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life on Marrs? Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Have a champions league final between bate borisov & dynamo Minsk, since belurus is the only country still playing. I'm sure the sponsors would love that! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevoraith Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 It looks like null and void is definitely off the table and declaring the league positions as they stand isnt going to happen due to UEFA saying they will remove European slots if the SFA/SPFL do that one like Belgium. It seems as if the season carrys on once this is over is the general consensus though i think Raiths chairmen has said teams should have to carry out a mini pre season before the resumption as players wont be at full fitness.Pfffff.... season carrying on after all this is over isn’t really an option either is it? Think we can all see that there won’t be any football played for months- I think even August looks optimistic. UEFA/ FAs seem to be the only ones that don’t realise how serious this is. And even if it could start before then, the well documented issues with contracts are a major headache. Regarding pre-season, Jack Ross said the other day that he thinks players need at least a month to get back up to full speed. There’s certainly no easy answer (and no right answer either) but surely it’s about time UEFA got realistic and allowed countries to end their leagues- whether that be null and void or call as-is or whatever other method they see fit. That would then allow FAs to plan for next season- they could surely then come up with a plan that if restrictions are relaxed by X date we’d have a normal season, if it was after X but before Y the season would look like this etc etc. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL-FFC Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, stevoraith said: Pfffff.... season carrying on after all this is over isn’t really an option either is it? Think we can all see that there won’t be any football played for months- I think even August looks optimistic. UEFA/ FAs seem to be the only ones that don’t realise how serious this is. And even if it could start before then, the well documented issues with contracts are a major headache. Regarding pre-season, Jack Ross said the other day that he thinks players need at least a month to get back up to full speed. There’s certainly no easy answer (and no right answer either) but surely it’s about time UEFA got realistic and allowed countries to end their leagues- whether that be null and void or call as-is or whatever other method they see fit. That would then allow FAs to plan for next season- they could surely then come up with a plan that if restrictions are relaxed by X date we’d have a normal season, if it was after X but before Y the season would look like this etc etc. Agree with you on that one the FA and UEFA need to get real about it the fact they are laying off backroom staff rather than cutting players salaries down south says it all even Barcelona have accepted a 70 per cent pay cut. One article yesterday was the impact on global travel after this and reckon that travel internationally wont be anywhere near the level it was before pandemic until late summer next year and thats not even putting it back to normal which f**ks up european games as well as internationals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expatowner Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 No award of titles this year because there is not enough time. Start next season with each team adding the points (after 27 games) from this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inreganhendrywetrust Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 No award of titles this year because there is not enough time. Start next season with each team adding the points (after 27 games) from this season.What a terrible solution 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFFC1938 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 1. If safe to do so, play the remaining games behind closed doors and stream it live if possible, charge supporters to watch it. Sell half time draw tickets through the week to maximise any potential profits.2. If the season can't be completed then next season is scrapped in order to complete the current season, how that would work regarding contracts etc is a hard one but it would fairly conclude the season. 3. Declare the current season null and void due to global pandemic.4. Current league positions are final, incl play off positions, sore one for some but shit happens. I can't see the season being declared null and void with only 8 games still to go. We're at the business end of the season and it's still all to play for regarding the play offs and in league ones case it's still wide open for the title. Hopefully a decision will be made soon enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFC1878 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Was speaking to my friend about it on the phone last night. He’s involved with business law and what he was saying is that if the SPFL wait until after the last league game (maybe the playoffs) was/were due to be played they might be able to call a halt to the season without it resulting in a breach of contract with the sponsors and broadcasters. All depends how the contracts are set out though (particularly with the broadcasters) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, AFC1878 said: Was speaking to my friend about it on the phone last night. He’s involved with business law and what he was saying is that if the SPFL wait until after the last league game (maybe the playoffs) was/were due to be played they might be able to call a halt to the season without it resulting in a breach of contract with the sponsors and broadcasters. All depends how the contracts are set out though (particularly with the broadcasters) Most of the media speculation seems to point towards the SPFL being desperate to award Celtic the title and relegate Hearts so if they find a legal way to do this then that’s what will happen with a similar decision then being applied to the lower leagues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde01 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Have a champions league final between bate borisov & dynamo Minsk, since belurus is the only country still playing. I'm sure the sponsors would love that! Seems unlikely....BATE have lost their opening 2 league games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL-FFC Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Well it looks like the reconstruction is back on the agenda again right enough but not the idea of 14 team leagues seems Gordon Smith was the architect on introduce the colts have a league 1 N and S but its being angled it will save clubs travel money i.e. teams from South travelling to Peterhead etc and also apparently its going to give players at the non premiership clubs a better chance of a move to a bigger team "aye right" https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-celtic-head-up-gordon-21812269 He explained: “The reasons for it are two-fold. You will have teams playing each other who are nearer each other so that means less cost and probably more derby matches as well. “But having the reserve teams of the Premiership clubs also invigorates it. That means you get bigger crowds then and you make more money. It would be a big boost for Annan to be playing against a Celtic or a Kilmarnock. Their expenses go down, but their income would increase. You play at their stadiums. “There is another aspect to it as well. The smaller clubs’ players would be getting tested against top class opposition - which would mean that more of their players are putting themselves in the shop window to be transferred. Premiership teams would be able to see they could play against their players. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peternapper Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 If that ever came to pass I would never be back at a league game. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL-FFC Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 28 minutes ago, peternapper said: If that ever came to pass I would never be back at a league game. Agree with you on that one the very thought of this for a reconstruction idea would pretty much be he death knell of football as we know it, for them to even think anyone is daft enough to believe those proposals are for the benefit of anyone other than the OF/Premiership sides is laughable the chances of being promoted in any of the leagues would be minimal and the only thing anyone in the Premiership is fighting it out for is who is in the top six and gets the extra 2 games against the Old Firm and which one of the arsecheeks wins the league. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde01 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Well it looks like the reconstruction is back on the agenda again right enough but not the idea of 14 team leagues seems Gordon Smith was the architect on introduce the colts have a league 1 N and S but its being angled it will save clubs travel money i.e. teams from South travelling to Peterhead etc and also apparently its going to give players at the non premiership clubs a better chance of a move to a bigger team "aye right" https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-celtic-head-up-gordon-21812269 He explained: “The reasons for it are two-fold. You will have teams playing each other who are nearer each other so that means less cost and probably more derby matches as well. “But having the reserve teams of the Premiership clubs also invigorates it. That means you get bigger crowds then and you make more money. It would be a big boost for Annan to be playing against a Celtic or a Kilmarnock. Their expenses go down, but their income would increase. You play at their stadiums. “There is another aspect to it as well. The smaller clubs’ players would be getting tested against top class opposition - which would mean that more of their players are putting themselves in the shop window to be transferred. Premiership teams would be able to see they could play against their players.This is utter bollocks and needs to get in the fucking sea.For a start if the premier league sides are reserves then the strength of their side will vary massively throughout the season depending on first team circumstances. How is that fair on the other sides? For instance, Celtic have Edouard and mcgregor coming back from injury and playing against Clyde then the next week have a big European match so the kids play against Dumbarton.The crowds argument is utter pish as well. The crowds in challenge cup games have been pitiful and there’s no chance old firm glory hunters are going to want to see their kids getting pumped off Peterhead away.If they want kids playing with and against experienced pros then a reserve league is the way to go. Not ruining the competition of the lower leagues. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL-FFC Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 23 minutes ago, Clyde01 said: This is utter bollocks and needs to get in the fucking sea. For a start if the premier league sides are reserves then the strength of their side will vary massively throughout the season depending on first team circumstances. How is that fair on the other sides? For instance, Celtic have Edouard and mcgregor coming back from injury and playing against Clyde then the next week have a big European match so the kids play against Dumbarton. The crowds argument is utter pish as well. The crowds in challenge cup games have been pitiful and there’s no chance old firm glory hunters are going to want to see their kids getting pumped off Peterhead away. If they want kids playing with and against experienced pros then a reserve league is the way to go. Not ruining the competition of the lower leagues. His argument for the B sides not being promoted is bollocks as well the system is that complex with play off winner of south league plays runner up of south and vice versa only for one of them to be promoted and the runner up in a play off against the championship side wtf is the point in playing at all when the season finishes your still playing meaning the championship side have been rested by the time it comes to play the runner up of the play off youve played 3 games more than the championship side. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Relax guys, smith is an utter irrelevance and is just rambling pish to fill a column. You can laugh at how ridiculous it is, but don’t take it seriously. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghBlue Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Well it looks like the reconstruction is back on the agenda again right enough but not the idea of 14 team leagues seems Gordon Smith was the architect on introduce the colts have a league 1 N and S but its being angled it will save clubs travel money i.e. teams from South travelling to Peterhead etc and also apparently its going to give players at the non premiership clubs a better chance of a move to a bigger team "aye right" https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-celtic-head-up-gordon-21812269 He explained: “The reasons for it are two-fold. You will have teams playing each other who are nearer each other so that means less cost and probably more derby matches as well. “But having the reserve teams of the Premiership clubs also invigorates it. That means you get bigger crowds then and you make more money. It would be a big boost for Annan to be playing against a Celtic or a Kilmarnock. Their expenses go down, but their income would increase. You play at their stadiums. “There is another aspect to it as well. The smaller clubs’ players would be getting tested against top class opposition - which would mean that more of their players are putting themselves in the shop window to be transferred. Premiership teams would be able to see they could play against their players.Among the more idiotic suggestions we’ve seen recently 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigGuy Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Dreadful idea imo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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