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I don't think the Championship will be suspended. Think it will finish as expected. Some games might have to be rearranged but for the most part I think it will run as scheduled.

Get reconstruction talks to f**k just now. 

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Not sure why everyone is worrying.
Before the season started it was obvious to everyone that there was a decent chance we wouldn’t be able to complete the season.

There’s no way the powers-that-be will have been negligent enough to allow the season to start without clearly defined contingencies for what to do if the season was stopped at various points.

Is there. Is there? What?

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fwiw, I am one of the few lucky people allowed to attend games at the moment due to my job. Whilst the checks before entering the ground make sense and we are all ordered to wear masks at all times, the amount of people in the stands who pull theirs down as soon as they sit down, wear it incorrectly or just don't bother wearing one at all has always surprised me. 

Note that I tend to be at the part-time teams. No idea if mask wearing is more strict for FT clubs.

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3 minutes ago, BobLatchford said:

fwiw, I am one of the few lucky people allowed to attend games at the moment due to my job. Whilst the checks before entering the ground make sense and we are all ordered to wear masks at all times, the amount of people in the stands who pull theirs down as soon as they sit down, wear it incorrectly or just don't bother wearing one at all has always surprised me. 

Note that I tend to be at the part-time teams. No idea if mask wearing is more strict for FT clubs.

Given that tends to be in stands in an outdoor environment it's extremely unlikely to be terribly relevant as long as a reasonable degree of social distancing is being used. It's certainly safer than inside supermarkets. It's not really much different to people walking in parks not wearing masks.

Edited by Skyline Drifter

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Given that tends to be in stands in an outdoor environment it's extremely unlikely to be terribly relevant as long as a reasonable degree of social distancing is being used. It's certainly safer than inside supermarkets. It's not really much different to people walking in parks not wearing masks.
Nice to see you are alive and well!

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10 minutes ago, stevoraith said:

Not sure why everyone is worrying.
Before the season started it was obvious to everyone that there was a decent chance we wouldn’t be able to complete the season.

There’s no way the powers-that-be will have been negligent enough to allow the season to start without clearly defined contingencies for what to do if the season was stopped at various points.

Is there. Is there? What?

'The powers-that-be' can't make those do decisions.

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12 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

I don't think the Championship will be suspended. Think it will finish as expected. Some games might have to be rearranged but for the most part I think it will run as scheduled.

Get reconstruction talks to f**k just now. 

This is pretty much my thoughts. As long as all championship clubs agree to regular testing I see no reason why this season can’t be played to a conclusion and promotion/relegation from the premiership done.

The main issue is obviously how promotion/relegation will work from the lower leagues if their season(s) are unable to be completed. Null and Void from league 1 down or league reconstruction being the main two soloutions. 

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1 hour ago, Skyline Drifter said:

No we don't, you've made that up.

We tested players at the start of the season I just assumed it continued or have I made that up as well .

You not on the Queens site as much now since the George Galloway problem or have I made that up as well 

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30 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said:

Given that tends to be in stands in an outdoor environment it's extremely unlikely to be terribly relevant as long as a reasonable degree of social distancing is being used. It's certainly safer than inside supermarkets. It's not really much different to people walking in parks not wearing masks.

I see you've jumped out your rabbit hole after a certain furore died down.

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26 minutes ago, ayrunitedfw said:

This is pretty much my thoughts. As long as all championship clubs agree to regular testing I see no reason why this season can’t be played to a conclusion and promotion/relegation from the premiership done.

The main issue is obviously how promotion/relegation will work from the lower leagues if their season(s) are unable to be completed. Null and Void from league 1 down or league reconstruction being the main two soloutions. 

Testing doesn't address the issue of why the Scottish Championship should be continuing when you can't even leave the house and meet with two other people outdoors. It's the opposite of essential, there is no safe bubble from infection and the idea that clubs should waste money on constant rounds of testing just to complete a full season BCD is pure folly.

The season should be suspended for the time being and staff furloughed instead. 

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1 hour ago, LeodhasXD said:

This is technically not Championship but Celtic going on a jolly to Dubai has undoubtedly contributed to the government pressure. When folk are being told to stay at home unless it's essential they think they can import COVID to get a relaxing holiday. 

There's no mention in the statement but I'd imagine that's this years Scottish Cup suspended. Surprised they've not cancelled the competition.

Unless there's significantly controlled transmission in three weeks time I don't see the suspension being lifted and I can't see how you can promote or relegate from the lower divisions. Don't want to assume this year is a free hit at the Championship but I think that's the likeliest outcome.

If we test once a week from now to the end of the season that's going to be about £50,000. 

I also can't see league reconstruction not happening.

I'm with you on reconstruction with a proviso that teams in the 'Elite Leagues' are required to be full time.

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'The powers-that-be' can't make those do decisions.


Eh?

The point was that everybody knew there was a good chance this season wouldn’t be completed before it even started.

It would have been sensible for the SPFL to have contingency plans that said, for example, if X games have been completed when we end the season then we null and void, if Y games have been competed we can give out prize money based on positions but no promotion/ relegation, if Z games have been played we have promotion and relegation.

I think we can assume that this did not happen since we’ve not heard a whisper about it.

This is/was monumentally stupid.

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There's surely an obvious solution for Leagues One & Two, which could be extended to the Championship as well - cut the season to 18 games. Removes the need to cram games in whenever they restart, particularly considering the distinct possibility that the suspension is going to last longer than the initial three weeks and that there's going to be Scottish Cup games to fit in as well around the Premiership calendar, and removes the fixture imbalance as well.

Obviously that's all based on cases falling far enough to make resuming at all sensible. If there's no restart then the season has to be null and void, you can't promote and relegate based on 9 games.

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15 minutes ago, stevoraith said:

 


Eh?

The point was that everybody knew there was a good chance this season wouldn’t be completed before it even started.

It would have been sensible for the SPFL to have contingency plans that said, for example, if X games have been completed when we end the season then we null and void, if Y games have been competed we can give out prize money based on positions but no promotion/ relegation, if Z games have been played we have promotion and relegation.

I think we can assume that this did not happen since we’ve not heard a whisper about it.

This is/was monumentally stupid.

 

Did the SPFL not consult the clubs and they couldn’t agree on a specific plan so it was kicked down the road?

https://spfl.co.uk/news/spfl-announces-latest-club-consultation-response

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31 minutes ago, AlbionMan said:

I'm with you on reconstruction with a proviso that teams in the 'Elite Leagues' are required to be full time.

I don't want it to happen. But noone wants us and Arbroath in the Championship when you could have Falkirk and Partick Thistle, who are 'too big for League 1.'

Edited by LeodhasXD

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13 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said:

There's surely an obvious solution for Leagues One & Two, which could be extended to the Championship as well - cut the season to 18 games. Removes the need to cram games in whenever they restart, particularly considering the distinct possibility that the suspension is going to last longer than the initial three weeks and that there's going to be Scottish Cup games to fit in as well around the Premiership calendar, and removes the fixture imbalance as well.

Obviously that's all based on cases falling far enough to make resuming at all sensible. If there's no restart then the season has to be null and void, you can't promote and relegate based on 9 games.

The season is due to finish 30th April, is there a reason we can't push it out a month or so if required. 

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Partick Thistle, who are 'too big for League 1.'

The way things are going we're not even looking too big for League 2.

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Did the SPFL not consult the clubs and they couldn’t agree on a specific plan so it was kicked down the road?
https://spfl.co.uk/news/spfl-announces-latest-club-consultation-response


Ah, I hadn’t seen that update, thanks.

Disappointing but not surprising that clubs could not agree on a plan for something which seemed so inevitable.

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2 hours ago, stevoraith said:

 


Eh?

The point was that everybody knew there was a good chance this season wouldn’t be completed before it even started.

It would have been sensible for the SPFL to have contingency plans that said, for example, if X games have been completed when we end the season then we null and void, if Y games have been competed we can give out prize money based on positions but no promotion/ relegation, if Z games have been played we have promotion and relegation.

I think we can assume that this did not happen since we’ve not heard a whisper about it.

This is/was monumentally stupid.

 

Covered above but the powers-that-be asked to be given the authority to make the decisions but that was refused.

The powers-that-be can't make the decisions, the clubs vote on it. No further votes have taken place.

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