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Clubs should be asked if they want to take part next season, those that can't do it should be safeguarded financially somehow (no idea how/if that's possible). Then try and work out a structure with those that said yes.

Falkirk already have a pretty decent Falkirk TV in place so we could possibly make an ok go at it. Our chairman thinks we can anyway!

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Won't be a goer anyway, but if it was and more than 16 wanted in it could be by invitation only. Gives us all another chance to piss off Hearts. 👍

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32 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

What economics? The top league only get some more TV money and competition money. Is that increase enough to mitigate loses? I don't think it would come close. It's probably even more unaffordable to play in empty stadiums in the Premiership for Dunfermline. For a start we'd need to sign up some players. What would we pay them with? The players signed would need to be of a higher quality too unless we want to be pumped every single week, so that means paying more in wages.

But again, how would these wages be paid?

If Dunfermline aren't competing in any organised football next season, there's 10 players signed up who the club are responsible for. You may be able to shift one or two but there are going to be so many out of contract players in the market. Hibernation would suspend future prize money completely, a few part timers in would likely be far less of a loss if it kept the club going, even if it was to get humped every week.

I'm half wondering if the whole of Scottish Football might newco.

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17 minutes ago, Ecosse83 said:

Clubs should be asked if they want to take part next season, those that can't do it should be safeguarded financially somehow (no idea how/if that's possible). Then try and work out a structure with those that said yes.

Falkirk already have a pretty decent Falkirk TV in place so we could possibly make an ok go at it. Our chairman thinks we can anyway!

Nice try but you're staying in the seaside leagues where you belong.

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1 minute ago, virginton said:

Nice try but you're staying in the seaside leagues where you belong.

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Clever reply 👏

You better have a lie down now!

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18 minutes ago, harry94 said:

I'm half wondering if the whole of Scottish Football might newco.

That would be pretty funny, tbf. 

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29 minutes ago, Ecosse83 said:

Clubs should be asked if they want to take part next season, those that can't do it should be safeguarded financially somehow (no idea how/if that's possible). Then try and work out a structure with those that said yes.

Falkirk already have a pretty decent Falkirk TV in place so we could possibly make an ok go at it. Our chairman thinks we can anyway!

Me, me, me, don't forget me, what about me, me, me!

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48 minutes ago, Ecosse83 said:

Falkirk already have a pretty decent Falkirk TV in place so we could possibly make an ok go at it. Our chairman thinks we can anyway!

Only if it's run silently. Those appalling commentators of yours give even some of you own fans the boak.

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Just now, Rudolph Hucker said:

Only if it's run silently. Those appalling commentators of yours give even some of you own fans the boak.

Yes there not great but it could be worse we could have the Rangers commentators 🙈

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Just now, Ecosse83 said:

Yes there not great but it could be worse we could have the Rangers commentators 🙈

They are just as bad. 

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22 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

Me, me, me, don't forget me, what about me, me, me!

Yes giving everyone a choice is so bad 🤣

 

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1 hour ago, Ecosse83 said:

Clubs should be asked if they want to take part next season, those that can't do it should be safeguarded financially somehow (no idea how/if that's possible). Then try and work out a structure with those that said yes.

Falkirk already have a pretty decent Falkirk TV in place so we could possibly make an ok go at it. Our chairman thinks we can anyway!

Falkirk would manage this no bother.

You must get 8,000+ fans per week?

#kingsofcrowdwanking

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4 minutes ago, johnnydun said:

Falkirk would manage this no bother.

You must get 8,000+ fans per week?

#kingsofcrowdwanking

9,000 mate! 

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1 hour ago, Rudolph Hucker said:

Only if it's run silently. Those appalling commentators of yours give even some of you own fans the boak.

I quite like them.

"Tom Beadling once again has the run of Falkirk Stadium" 😂

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9 minutes ago, Rob1885 said:

I quite like them.

"Tom Beadling once again has the run of Falkirk Stadium" 😂

Sssh I've blocked some stuff like that out of my mind 🤣

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4 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

What economics? The top league only get some more TV money and competition money. Is that increase enough to mitigate loses? I don't think it would come close. It's probably even more unaffordable to play in empty stadiums in the Premiership for Dunfermline. For a start we'd need to sign up some players. What would we pay them with? The players signed would need to be of a higher quality too unless we want to be pumped every single week, so that means paying more in wages.

But again, how would these wages be paid?

A hell of a lot more prize money (link below has numbers).  I understand reservations about live streaming but the market for the Pars v Hibs is rather different to Pars v Queens.

I get the concern that clubs could easily bleed to death if we are not careful.  However, there are different risks with declining the option if it is there.  The furlough changes mean that clubs have to start picking up part of the wage for players and non-playing staff from August and (probably) all of it from November.  That money has to come from somewhere too.

If the option is there (and I'm sceptical) it will depend in part on the current view of when crowds may return with social distancing, and when they might return in full.  

I think fans of clubs may have to find ways of providing life support to their cubs for quite a while - lots of examples of that around already.  

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/spfl-prize-money-available-your-21866037

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4 hours ago, Rudolph Hucker said:

And what's your reasoning in missing out most of the Championship and going straight down to Partick and Falkirk? 😳

Back of a fag packet speculation about who would be up for it, based on comments from directors, reports of squad sizes and chat on here.  Nothing terribly scientific and sadly I'm not important enough to be 'in the know'.

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2 minutes ago, Parttimesupporter said:

A hell of a lot more prize money (link below has numbers).  I understand reservations about live streaming but the market for the Pars v Hibs is rather different to Pars v Queens.

I get the concern that clubs could easily bleed to death if we are not careful.  However, there are different risks with declining the option if it is there.  The furlough changes mean that clubs have to start picking up part of the wage for players and non-playing staff from August and (probably) all of it from November.  That money has to come from somewhere too.

If the option is there (and I'm sceptical) it will depend in part on the current view of when crowds may return with social distancing, and when they might return in full.  

I think fans of clubs may have to find ways of providing life support to their cubs for quite a while - lots of examples of that around already.  

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/spfl-prize-money-available-your-21866037

More prize money but still nowhere near enough to make this financial feasible.

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Keep hearing it's not financially viable to play without fans but you'll also be just as, if not more, skint if you dont play at all. We'll need to find a way at this level.

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19 minutes ago, Rob1885 said:

Keep hearing it's not financially viable to play without fans but you'll also be just as, if not more, skint if you dont play at all. We'll need to find a way at this level.

Guess it comes down to whats worse.  Having limited expenditure on wages with no income.  Or having some income with far more costs.

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