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4 hours ago, jagsfan57 said:

 


Unless, I missed something it is 3 months for everyone

 

Surely they’re expecting normality to mostly have returned by then, if they’re only doing it for 3 months? That would take us to late June...perfect time for some pre-season friendlies 😉

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Surely they’re expecting normality to mostly have returned by then, if they’re only doing it for 3 months? That would take us to late June...perfect time for some pre-season friendlies
Depends which government you listen to, Holyrood seem to say this could last 12 weeks for the desired effect, Westminster were talking about 6 months worth of disruption. That said, the latter was probably focused on London (as it always is) which will be in a mess longer than the rest of us.

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It can’t be that difficult really to sort this mess out regards our leagues. Going to the 3 leagues of 16 model should really keep most happy with no relegation and no league titles handed out that haven’t been mathematically decided in the 2019/20 season. Everyone plays each team home and away (30 games), then splits into 2 leagues of 8 for Europe and relegation, this leads to a further 14 games in a 1 off season of 44 games. This inturn means all clubs will recoup 3 home games of gate money that have been lost this season. The teams that narrowly miss out on promotion can be compensated a 6 figure sum for missing out with them having a real opportunity at winning league the next season and gaining more money through promotion. The automatic relegation in each league can be 4 teams with 11th and 12th going into a playoff system with the teams finishing 2nd and 3rd in the league below. Really isn’t that difficult. The tv companies still get their 4 Celtic Rangers games.  If Celtic and Rangers aren’t happy with this it’s time to tell them to beat it for the sake of our national game. 

 

Anything other than this then Yenited will have to stay down...

The top division don't want to change as per the last 3/4 spfl/sfa meetings over the last 5/6 months simple but they will back 3 lower divisions of 14/16 the top division don't want to split the prize money 14/16 ways protection what they have simple the spfl and sfa would want 3/4 divisions of 14/16 but don't have the backing for it within the clubs

 

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1 hour ago, weetoonlad said:

The top division don't want to change as per the last 3/4 spfl/sfa meetings over the last 5/6 months simple but they will back 3 lower divisions of 14/16 the top division don't want to split the prize money 14/16 ways protection what they have simple the spfl and sfa would want 3/4 divisions of 14/16 but don't have the backing for it within the clubs

 

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The vote nearly went through the last time but for Aberdeen. Unprecedented times will maybe see the clubs do what is best for our national game and not just Celtic and Rangers this time. I just think this is the easiest  option to keep the vast majority of clubs happy.  

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52092857

tbh I don't know how credible Chris McLaughlin is but it reads to me that the SPFL have given up on finding any way of finishing this season and are laying the groundwork for a decision (soon) on i) null and void or ii) finishing on current league standings.  edit: mebbe taking a lead off Uefa going by this related article https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52079717 further edit: actually that article isn't really conclusive either way but I think it says that if the closed doors games can't be done by June then scratching this current season would be the preference?

Found this bit interesting too, sounds like they don't expect the English top flight to finish either to magnify the potential for complete cranial detachments across the border too:

The English Premier League is reportedly exploring a televised, behind-closed-doors event this summer.

However, that is considered fanciful by senior figures in Scotland.

 

Edited by Thistle_do_nicely

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McLaughlin is credible in the sense that he's not made it up, but he's not the most investigative of guys, so it'll basically be on the basis of what one or two guys have told him. As we often saw 8 years ago with the Rangers stuff, or most recently with the colts idea, just because some of those on the SPFL Board want something doesn't mean that's what will happen.

 

UEFA seem to be pushing more and more towards a further extension, but whether countries will be bound to that is a different story.

 

 

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The latest suggestion seems to be restarting football at the beginnig of August like usual but we'll finish this season first before starting the new season. 

Surely that means all players will need to stay with the clubs they are at for another year. Not fair in the slightest to restart a continuing season with teams having whole new squads. Presume that means there would be no summer transfer window.

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44 minutes ago, rb123! said:

The latest suggestion seems to be restarting football at the beginnig of August like usual but we'll finish this season first before starting the new season. 

Surely that means all players will need to stay with the clubs they are at for another year. Not fair in the slightest to restart a continuing season with teams having whole new squads. Presume that means there would be no summer transfer window.

Totally unworkable to keep squads together and prepare for a new season. Firstly a load of contracts end in May. You can't force players to re-sign for a club. Many will be wanted by other clubs anyway and will want to sign for other clubs. You legally can't deny players that.

Secondly how do you assemble a squad to both finish the remaining games and start a new season? Some clubs won't know what league they'll be in for the new season which has a massive say on budgets and therefore what players a team can sign. 

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The latest suggestion seems to be restarting football at the beginnig of August like usual but we'll finish this season first before starting the new season. 
Surely that means all players will need to stay with the clubs they are at for another year. Not fair in the slightest to restart a continuing season with teams having whole new squads. Presume that means there would be no summer transfer window.
The solution I said should happen.

If they are starting then it would mean a curtailed 2020/21 season and possibly no League Cup.

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1 hour ago, rb123! said:

The latest suggestion seems to be restarting football at the beginnig of August like usual but we'll finish this season first before starting the new season. 

Surely that means all players will need to stay with the clubs they are at for another year. Not fair in the slightest to restart a continuing season with teams having whole new squads. Presume that means there would be no summer transfer window.

It's not just a case of players staying with clubs and no transfer window. 

What would happen if players retired from the game completely?  For example Team A could have a squad of 20 players and Team B could have a squad of 10 players due to players retiring.  

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12 minutes ago, craigkillie said:

Do clubs often have 8-10 players retiring in a single summer?

I don't think this is the time to be asking 'often' questions considering what's going on, tbh. 

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3 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

Totally unworkable to keep squads together and prepare for a new season. Firstly a load of contracts end in May. You can't force players to re-sign for a club. Many will be wanted by other clubs anyway and will want to sign for other clubs. You legally can't deny players that.

Yes you can, by simply rejecting any new player registrations until all of the 19/20 fixtures have been completed. So players can either extend their contract on a rolling basis until the end of the campaign - whenever that is - or decline and not get paid. The vast majority would choose the former.

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There's a league that operates on a 2 season basis to decide promotion/relegation etc and it's on an average point system. Think it's Ukraine? Could be wrong just from the old FM days. Could be an option.

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I don't think the players are going to be in a strong bargaining position here - clubs across the world will be absolutely rooked by the lack of games, so there is likely going to be much less opportunity to move elsewhere for more money. I reckon we'll eventually see more players than normal staying where they are, regardless of what the outcome is here.

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18 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said:

There's a league that operates on a 2 season basis to decide promotion/relegation etc and it's on an average point system. Think it's Ukraine? Could be wrong just from the old FM days. Could be an option.

Argentina’s Primera Division has worked on a 3 season average for a while now but they’re planning to abolish it soon.

Haven't heard of average points being used anywhere in Europe but might have just missed it.

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34 minutes ago, virginton said:

Yes you can, by simply rejecting any new player registrations until all of the 19/20 fixtures have been completed. So players can either extend their contract on a rolling basis until the end of the campaign - whenever that is - or decline and not get paid. The vast majority would choose the former.

Yeah, if that was possible then could work, but then you might have folk sitting on a PCA for a few weeks with a promise of a signing bonus (that by total coincidence would be equal to the wages they would have picked up staying put). Still, should be looked at if there is an insistence that this season is finished.

Still doesn't leave much time for teams to build squads for the next season and could see a mad couple of weeks that could result in some comical panic signings. Could make things very enjoyable. As long as football is back then I'm in.

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19 minutes ago, Nightmare said:

Argentina’s Primera Division has worked on a 3 season average for a while now but they’re planning to abolish it soon.

Haven't heard of average points being used anywhere in Europe but might have just missed it.

Certinaly wouldn't propose it long term, but could be the ideal solution if we can't get this season finished and not just write it off entirely and it can be built into next season which we don't know how long will last (games wise).

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IMO - The virus restrictions will last at least another 6 months, we can't get back to "normal" before then. Get used to no football for the foreseeable future. The minute you relax the restrictions you're opening up for a second "wave" of infections.

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7 minutes ago, JessieField said:

IMO - The virus restrictions will last at least another 6 months, we can't get back to "normal" before then. Get used to no football for the foreseeable future. The minute you relax the restrictions you're opening up for a second "wave" of infections.

Once number of infections get to a level the nhs are coping better the government are likely to welcome a second wave, they would want to control that carefully which probably stops mass gatherings still but a steady relaxation followed but restrictions  coming back in is very likely  over the coming months. 

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