DA Baracus Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 hour ago, jagsfan57 said: Certainly Thistle players haven’t been working hard enough for over 3 years, but that has nothing to do with his assertion that the SPFL were working hard for all clubs. Are you suggesting Partick Thistle have been shit for the last 3 years due to a lack of effort? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Ton Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 hour ago, The DA said: Can't see the Premiership teams approving that. Bye bye Hearts. Nor bottom 6 championship or bottom 4 1st div as would be exposed to only going down and a lottery if restructuring back to old format 21/22 season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grazza Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 We probably don't need 4 tiers at national level especially give the influx to West and East in the pyramid from the juniors. With this 14-14-14 we are moving up 6 teams into a mostly full time setup. The Championship already with 2 part time teams, out of the 6 coming up would have another 4 part time teams. In some ways it will give stability for clubs to stay or go full time and a good safety net but on the other hand it may make more teams consider going and staying part time. Maybe a plus for clubs like Ayr, Morton, QOS is they have more of a cushion to bring through young players. Maybe like of Airdrie and Clyde can start to build up again. Though away gates on average likely to drop for current members. We need to see the play off relegation proposals. With 14 team leagues at least 2 need to go down automatically from any league in my opinion. Fair enough only champions get automatic promotion but play offs should just be for the next 3 or 4 teams in that league. Bottom 2 in 3rd tier need to go down. Longer term many of current league 2 teams will regret making it so hard to get back in the league if they keep it as it is. I'm not sure why premiership will vote in enough numbers for this. They are guaranteed 3 games against Celtic and Rangers currently and same with Edinburgh derbies. Any split could reduce that to 2. Livy, St Johnstone, Hamilton and St Mirren may like the bigger numbers as better chance to stay up or get back up but the rest will take convincing except Hearts. Though the difference is going to be bigger as in any given season a third of championship will be part time teams. A bigger championship even just to 12 teams I think could be good with top 2 tiers of 12 clubs. It keeps it mainly full time league but still platform for elite part time clubs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, grazza said: St Johnstone may like the bigger numbers as better chance to stay up or get back up Just the daily reminder St Johnstone havent finished below 8th in over a decade. Hearts have been relegated twice* in that time, yet for some reason never get mentioned. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 26 minutes ago, grazza said: We probably don't need 4 tiers at national level especially give the influx to West and East in the pyramid from the juniors. With this 14-14-14 we are moving up 6 teams into a mostly full time setup. The Championship already with 2 part time teams, out of the 6 coming up would have another 4 part time teams. In some ways it will give stability for clubs to stay or go full time and a good safety net but on the other hand it may make more teams consider going and staying part time. Maybe a plus for clubs like Ayr, Morton, QOS is they have more of a cushion to bring through young players. Maybe like of Airdrie and Clyde can start to build up again. Though away gates on average likely to drop for current members. We need to see the play off relegation proposals. With 14 team leagues at least 2 need to go down automatically from any league in my opinion. Fair enough only champions get automatic promotion but play offs should just be for the next 3 or 4 teams in that league. Bottom 2 in 3rd tier need to go down. Longer term many of current league 2 teams will regret making it so hard to get back in the league if they keep it as it is. I'm not sure why premiership will vote in enough numbers for this. They are guaranteed 3 games against Celtic and Rangers currently and same with Edinburgh derbies. Any split could reduce that to 2. Livy, St Johnstone, Hamilton and St Mirren may like the bigger numbers as better chance to stay up or get back up but the rest will take convincing except Hearts. Though the difference is going to be bigger as in any given season a third of championship will be part time teams. A bigger championship even just to 12 teams I think could be good with top 2 tiers of 12 clubs. It keeps it mainly full time league but still platform for elite part time clubs. The number of tiers is arbitrary as long as al the competitions are decent and teams have something to play for. The prize money really wants sorting out as the Premiership to Championship money is an absolute cliff which is not healthy, then even 1st to 10th in the Championship is really steep as well. If there was a fairer distribution teams would be less likely to have to entrench themselves as they're going to now to protect their share of the pot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagsfan57 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Are you suggesting Partick Thistle have been shit for the last 3 years due to a lack of effort?Not solely. There have been plenty of games where some players weren’t committed enough and were easily discouraged when things started going against them. Some players just haven’t been good enough 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flash Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 EGM on 12 May https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52446994 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weetoonlad Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) Good move to clear it all up hope Rangers have the correct evidence. As they say!!! SPFL are working hard for all clubs not just a Few Hope they can have reconstruction vote same day. Get it sorted all at once Edited April 27, 2020 by weetoonlad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 minute ago, weetoonlad said: Good move to clear it all up hope Rangers have the correct evidence. As they say!!! SPFL are working hard for all clubs not just a Few Surely you'll be at it. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, weetoonlad said: Good move to clear it all up hope Rangers have the correct evidence. As they say!!! SPFL are working hard for all clubs not just a Few This and the angus account have to be the same person. Div can't expect us to put up with his shitey full screen ads and that bumpkin at the same time. Mercy, please. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weetoonlad Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 minute ago, GiGi said: This and the angus account have to be the same person. Div can't expect us to put up with his shitey full screen ads and that bumpkin at the same time. Mercy, please. Mr Nelms has a lot of Questions to answer to a lot of people 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, weetoonlad said: Mr Nelms has a lot of Questions to answer to a lot of people No, he doesn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weetoonlad Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, Speroni*1 said: No, he doesn't. Really 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, weetoonlad said: Really Yes. Now f**k off. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printer Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 He's not allowed out of Clackmannan. Surely you'll be at it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolph Hucker Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 3 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Just the daily reminder St Johnstone havent finished below 8th in over a decade. Yes. Surprising, isn’t it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolph Hucker Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 2 hours ago, weetoonlad said: Good move to clear it all up hope Rangers have the correct evidence. As they say!!! SPFL are working hard for all clubs not just a Few Hope they can have reconstruction vote same day. Get it sorted all at once 2 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Surely you'll be at it. Oh, he’s at it all right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomer Brown Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/27/cambuur-captain-im-still-angry-its-an-unbelievable-decision Thankx again Mr Nelms 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 7 hours ago, craigkillie said: There's no way the Premiership clubs will back this without a change to the financial distribution - the gap between 12th and 14th is too different for teams playing in the same league. And if the financial distribution does have to change, then that ramps up the votes required to 11-1 in the Premiership, not the 9-3 required for this one. I’m sure the Premiership clubs will be more than happy to change the financial distribution...provided it involves keeping 1st-12th as-is, and bumping up 13th and 14th at the expense of 15th-42nd. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, The Master said: I’m sure the Premiership clubs will be more than happy to change the financial distribution...provided it involves keeping 1st-12th as-is, and bumping up 13th and 14th at the expense of 15th-42nd. You say that as if every division wouldnt. Let's ask League Two sides if they should open up more relegation spots in their division, while also cutting prize money so the teams aiming to take their spot in that division earn more. I'm sure theyd all accept it as it's for the "good of the game". Edited April 27, 2020 by RandomGuy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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