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14 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

I thought Dundee fans were ok with United going up?

Yeah the tantrums are just for show.

FWIW I reckon the majority of them are, it’s the immature ones that have the problem.

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18 hours ago, Speroni*1 said:

"Dear All,

"You will all be aware of reports in the press, calling for an independent investigation and for the suspension of SPFL’s chief executive Neil Doncaster and SPFL’s legal counsel Rod McKenzie in relation to the resolution that enabled the payment of nearly £2 million to Championship, League One and League Two clubs.

"The focus of the questions raised in the press concerned the events of the evening of Friday 10 April, when Dundee FC attempted to return a voting slip to the SPFL in connection with the resolution.

"In order to ensure complete probity and independence during this process, on Thursday 16 April, Deloitte LLP, a leading global provider of audit and assurance services, was appointed by the SPFL’s independent non-executive directors to carry out a comprehensive and independent investigation into the factual chronology relating to Dundee FC’s return.

"Deloitte has completed its forensic investigation and the findings confirm the following sequence of key events on 10 April 2020.

"Sequence of key events on 10 April 2020.

"1. An SPFL Board Meeting commenced at 17:00 on Friday 10 April 2020. At the start of the meeting 38 returns had been identified as received, and 1 further return was received during the meeting at 17:10, bringing the total number of returns to 39. Ladbrokes Premier: 10 returns in favour, 1 against Ladbrokes Championship: 7 returns in favour, 2 against Ladbrokes Leagues One and Two: 16 returns in favour, 3 against.

"It was noted during the meeting that one vote remained outstanding from the Premiership, one from the Championship, and one from Leagues One and Two.

"2. The Board meeting concluded at around 17:15.

"3. At 17:15, Neil Doncaster called Dundee FC Managing Director, John Nelms, and left a message asking whether Dundee FC intended to submit a return.

"4. At 17:39, Neil Doncaster had a conversation with John Nelms and confirmed that as far as he knew, no vote had been returned from Dundee FC. John Nelms thought Dundee FC’s vote may have been returned, but would make enquiries.

"5. At 17:50, Eric Drysdale (Dundee FC Club Secretary) spoke to Iain Blair (SPFL’s Company Secretary and Director of Operations) asking whether Dundee FC’s return had been received. Iain Blair confirmed that it had not.

"6. At 18:00, a text was received by Iain Blair, from Eric Drysdale, intimating that the Dundee FC vote should not be considered as cast.

"7. At around 20:30, Ian Blair accessed the SPFL’s email quarantine system (which is a feature of the email system operated by a separate third party) at the suggestion of Rod Mackenzie and identified an unread email from Eric Drysdale that had been sent at 16:48 on 10 April 2020. Iain Blair released the quarantined email and it appeared in his SPFL email inbox at 20:55.

"Prior to identifying the quarantined email at around 20:30, no one from the SPFL had seen the email from Eric Drysdale.

"Deloitte’s examination of phone records, mobile communications (including texts) and email data has identified no evidence of improper behaviour by SPFL personnel concerning the submission of the Dundee FC vote.

"I hope that Scottish football will now focus on the significant issues that face our game, otherwise many clubs may not survive this period.

"We will have to be forward-thinking, and work collegiately to quickly present ideas and proposals to Scottish Government and others which will enable Scottish football to recover and progress.

"Make no mistake, this is a critical time for all clubs, and we must concentrate on what is important to the future of our game.

"Yours faithfully,

"Karyn McCluskey

"SPFL Independent Non-Executive Director"

Every email system I've dealt with has sent a message along the lines of 'an email to you from xxxx with subject line yyyy has been quarantined.  If you want to see this email, please contact your system admin'.

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I’ve never in my life heard of “quarantining” in regards to an email.

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15 minutes ago, eez-eh said:

I’ve never in my life heard of “quarantining” in regards to an email.

Really??  You should get out more.

Oh, wait.......

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20 minutes ago, eez-eh said:

I’ve never in my life heard of “quarantining” in regards to an email.

You probably live in a cave then.

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1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said:

You're fine, it's the Dundee fans ( @Yenitit/ @Bigmouth Strikes Again) who are being all hunnish and roving the forum demanding leagues are voided entirely to prevent rivals winning leagues.

You’re  pap. “Demanding” 😂😂

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1 hour ago, Dunning1874 said:

Impressed that someone has managed to make themselves look like the biggest tit on a thread that weetoonlad has posted in.

Stop being a fanny and taking things so seriously on a football Internet forum. 

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30 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

You probably live in a cave then.

I’m reasonably techy but I’ve never heard that word being used in regards to an email.

Unless it’s just a fancy name for a junk folder.

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1 minute ago, Yenitit said:

Stop being a fanny and taking things so seriously on a football Internet forum. 

^^^^

SEETHING!!!  

ON THE VERGE OF TEARS!!!  

ETC.!!!

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1 hour ago, The DA said:

Every email system I've dealt with has sent a message along the lines of 'an email to you from xxxx with subject line yyyy has been quarantined.  If you want to see this email, please contact your system admin'.

Quite. It would be utterly astonishing if a system of this kind did not have that feature enabled as a matter of course.

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3 minutes ago, Yenitit said:

Stop being a fanny and taking things so seriously on a football Internet forum. 

😳😳😳 Long past time you, and a few others like you, did the same. 

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2 minutes ago, eez-eh said:

I’m reasonably techy but I’ve never heard that word being used in regards to an email.

Unless it’s just a fancy name for a junk folder.

No, it might be the term you don't recognise. It usually happens if there is an attachment.

Edited by Sergeant Wilson

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1 minute ago, eez-eh said:

I’m reasonably techy but I’ve never heard that word being used in regards to an email.

Unless it’s just a fancy name for a junk folder.

It is more sophisticated than a Junk folder but really not much. Instead of your email provider simply automatically redirecting to junk, a third party app quarantines unusual or suspicious emails and then sends the intended recipient an email saying “do you want to block, release or permit this sender” or similar.

It’s an additional line of defence against corporate organisations and the like inadvertently getting ravaged by a scam/virus etc.

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Every email system I've dealt with has sent a message along the lines of 'an email to you from xxxx with subject line yyyy has been quarantined.  If you want to see this email, please contact your system admin'.

I used to get this message as a daily digest, not every single time one got sent. I think it was at 8:30am every morning I'd get "3 emails have been quarantined, please contact...".

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4 minutes ago, craigkillie said:


I used to get this message as a daily digest, not every single time one got sent. I think it was at 8:30am every morning I'd get "3 emails have been quarantined, please contact...".

Fair shout.

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It is more sophisticated than a Junk folder but really not much. Instead of your email provider simply automatically redirecting to junk, a third party app quarantines unusual or suspicious emails and then sends the intended recipient an email saying “do you want to block, release or permit this sender” or similar.
It’s an additional line of defence against corporate organisations and the like inadvertently getting ravaged by a scam/virus etc.
And an additional line of defence against read receipts.

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32 minutes ago, Yenitit said:

Stop being a fanny and taking things so seriously on a football Internet forum. 

Learn how to multi-quote and I'll consider it.

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2 hours ago, The DA said:

Every email system I've dealt with has sent a message along the lines of 'an email to you from xxxx with subject line yyyy has been quarantined.  If you want to see this email, please contact your system admin'.

 

2 hours ago, eez-eh said:

I’ve never in my life heard of “quarantining” in regards to an email.

My work email server regularly intercepts suspicious mail and doesnt allow it through to my account. The next time I get a warning about it will be the first time. 

Usually end up having to check the server ourselves if we havent received something we know was sent.

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As for the spfl time line, I dont doubt its veracity but for me there are two o/s questions (desoite being pleased the vote passed). 

1 - given it is now acknowledged the vote did reach the spfl as it was their server that held it, should it not count? 

2 - is it allowed for Dundee to rescind a vote they dont deny casting because circumstances changed after they cast it? Maybe if a different vote is cast before the first arrives but the first then DID arrive befire they voted again.

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