Skyline Drifter Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, itzdrk said: We are, we have recieved two payments already. To be pedantic, you have received four payments already. Aug, Jan, Feb and March. Championship clubs already had over £140k each and those Daily Record numbers are exaggerated in terms of what is available right now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flash Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said: To be pedantic, you have received four payments already. Aug, Jan, Feb and March. Championship clubs already had over £140k each and those Daily Record numbers are exaggerated in terms of what is available right now. The Daily Record numbers are the total payments for 18/19, so therefore wrong both in terms of not being the final payments and for a different season. Edited April 17, 2020 by Flash 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolph Hucker Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Flash said: The financial incentive would be for them both to finish in the same six - which could be the bottom 6. Aahhh, if only that would happen........ Even just the once. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Didn't realise some of the funds had already been released 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Ann Budge outling her reasons for wanting reconstruction today. "Hearts spent a lot of money in January to avoid relegation, so it's unfair we get relegated and suffer financially". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Skyline Drifter said: There are two issues here. Firstly at what stage can football actually be PLAYED safely. That means all levels, from internationals to five a side kick abouts with your mates. If you arent allowed within 2m of a non family member then you are not playing football. Its a contact sport and cant be played with social distancing in place. No vaccine or herd immunity = no football. Or we test players before each game I suppose but thats a long way from being achievable too. Secondly, if you can play football can you have a crowd at it? I'm no doctor but presumably if social distancing is removed enough to play football then some sort of crowd may be possible too. If on the other hand football gets played by testing players, you might be looking at closed door games. That then gives issues about paying players. You might find a lot more clubs going amateur / part time if it is a long term thing. Fundamentally football clubs get money from about 5 sources: League funding, gate receipts, commercial revenues around games (hospitality, shirt sponsors, adverts, etc), non playing commercial money (property rents, gyms, etc) and donated income (mainly owner funding). The problem is that closed doors, esp in the lower leagues, decimate that. You maybe still get the League funding which is mostly tv money but you have zero gate receipts. You have zero hospitality. Advertising is vastly reduced in value especially where tv coverage is limited. Sponsors may also have their own problems commercially surviving and wont have spare cash to throw at football. That also likely applies to donated / ownership funding and possibly also to non football commercial stuff. Gyms will not reopen quickly probably either for instance. Depending how long it goes on with no vaccine the entire face of the professional game could change. Hopefully nowhere near as bad as that. Football is our national game. Its important for the economy. Its important for mental health, its important for physical health. The Govt wont want it shut down long term but it isnt a life or death thing and will need to wait till its safe to restart. That may be something measured in months not weeks and it might be even longer before it returns to what we perceived as 'normal' before. We seem to be passing the peak of this wave, which would leave us on track for a nominal death rate by June. On the other hand a recent Durch study into blood donations reckoned only about 3% of the populace showed the anti bodies. So, assuming the same again on the way down we'd have about 6% of the population with some form of immunity and we'd need another 9 waves of the thing after that to get herd immunity. I don't think the government want to do this again. My guess, based on probable wishful thinking and some of the comments from the Scotttish government briefings is that lockdown exit will follow the German model. That may mean, if they can finally get the number of tests up to a good amount, regular anti body and infection tests followed by rigorous contact tracing and isolation of any new clusters. Something the UK response seemed to have a real blind spot for but that has paid dividends elsewhere. Hopefully that would allow enough of a return to normality to keep the football on until a vaccine becomes available. My feeling is that a blanket ban on the sport up here until next year would pretty much destroy the game professionally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock Tamson Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Ann Budge should take a day off. She's boring me to tears. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Ann Budge outling her reasons for wanting reconstruction today. "Hearts spent a lot of money in January to avoid relegation, so it's unfair we get relegated and suffer financially". Lol piss off Budge, next time you're going to come up with something pathetic like that let us know in advance and we'll get the violins ready for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Partick apparently on the verge of joining this reconstruction panel, coincidence it's all the jobby teams leading this. Hope the rest of the clubs do the right thing and stick the middle finger up at Budge and Britton and send them doon. Cause guaranteed if it was the shoe on the other foot and clubs like Hamilton and Ayr or QOTS were at the bottom and being shafted by this clubs like Hearts and Thistle wouldn't be giving two shits. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Snafu said: There's very few as you put it who treat it as a hobby as its their money or their company money that's being used and that won't be taken lightly, many are supporters of the club especially if they are from the area and see it as personal as any other regular football supporter does. They are not all run by American or Thai billionaires who want a toy to play with, most football clubs are not that appealing to that kind of character anyway, its only a tiny percentage who do. The reasons for putting money into a football club can vary depending on the leadership at that company to either invests or sponsors a football club, many will go down the route of wanting to be seen to being active in the community and being part of that community. For the smaller clubs its nearly always local investors or sponsors, there maybe multi-national brands among those but often the decision to sponsor whom is at local level after being given encouragement from the big bosses overseas. Committees who have their own connections also do a lot of work to raise money for football clubs and this is at all levels. I'll stay close to home with this, Roy McGregor epitomises all you say in your first sentence. David Sutherland, never a real football fan, did invest early and remains one, albeit in a lesser role than before then came the two stands which his company built and we know how much that cost us over the years, then there is the car parks on either side of the stadium which Tulloch still own for reasons unknown, so initially he may have came in on the community side to promote the city, but as time progressed ............................................................................................................................. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Ann Budge outling her reasons for wanting reconstruction today. "Hearts spent a lot of money in January to avoid relegation, so it's unfair we get relegated and suffer financially". 10 minutes ago, Jock Tamson said: Ann Budge should take a day off. She's boring me to tears. 7 minutes ago, rb123! said: Lol piss off Budge, next time you're going to come up with something pathetic like that let us know in advance and we'll get the violins ready for you. If the quotes attributed to Budge are accurate she isnt doing herself any favours or doing much to cultivate support elsewhere. The notion that its not fair to be relegated because you accidentally assembled a rotten squad and spent a pile of money trying to fix it in January is absolutely ridiculous. Every bit of that also applies to Thistle and they had the good grace to accept the position yesterday despite having bigger ground for complaint given their game in hand. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said: If the quotes attributed to Budge are accurate she isnt doing herself any favours or doing much to cultivate support elsewhere. The notion that its not fair to be relegated because you accidentally assembled a rotten squad and spent a pile of money trying to fix it in January is absolutely ridiculous. Every bit of that also applies to Thistle and they had the good grace to accept the position yesterday despite having bigger ground for complaint given their game in hand. Quote 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 I wonder if the same fuss would be getting made over reconstruction if it was Hamilton and Alloa occupying the bottom spots. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 We made substantial investments to try and get promoted. Send us up Ann. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, Speroni*1 said: We made substantial investments to try and get promoted. Send us up Ann. We practically bought an entirely new team in January the season we got relegated. We should be brought back up just for that injustice, even if we may have slightly been complete shite throughout the season, Ann. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: That is amongst one of the most pathetic quotes I have ever seen from a person in charge of a club, and there have been many. I really, really, really hope the clubs do not accept whatever the directors of the 11th and 12th clubs put forward if for no other reason than that absolutely shameless 'woe is me' whimper. A forlorn hope I realise, but a hope nonetheless. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Ann Budge should be looking a bit closer to home as to the reason Hearts look like they are going to be relegated. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Looking forward to our similarly horseshit 2013/14 side having its relegation reversed for having ‘invested’ in Garry O’Connor, Rowan Vine and Nacho Novo during the season. Cheers Ann! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishtergrolsch Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: See, that's where all other clubs that have ever been relegated have gone wrong. They just didnt spend enough money! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Frankly I'm just glad folk are seeing how moronic she is, and honestly if anyone should be punished it's her and Hearts. Every game at Tynecastle that isnt "category A", has two price bands. Bottom tier is cheaper than the top tier. What happens every time you go to Tynecastle? Bottom tier is shut for maintenance so you either pay £27 for a ticket, or you dont get in. Biggest issue is that the stand is shared, and home fans are allowed to use the lower price lower tier... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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