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I've seen a couple of posts stating that cancelling the season is the fairest option if the games can't be played. 

I'm struggling to see how that's any fairer than awarding the prizes on current standings. Both have winners and losers...at least current standings are based on merit.

 

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I've seen a couple of posts stating that cancelling the season is the fairest option if the games can't be played. 
I'm struggling to see how that's any fairer than awarding the prizes on current standings. Both have winners and losers...at least current standings are based on merit.
 


Currently not every team has played the same number of games. They haven’t played the same number of home and away and they have played all the teams the same number of time. That’s why using current standings isn’t fairer.

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For next season only, have two divisions in Scotland - current Premiership & Championship as Top League, and current League1 & League 2 as Lower League. Scrap the League Cup and start the season with a playoff between current bottom of Championship & Top of League 1 for right to play in top league next season. The two leagues play out as normal, with top 12 and bottom 10 in the top league making up the top two leagues for the season after, and top 10, bottom 10 in the second lower league making up the two lower leagues for the season after.  If the Highland League & Lowland League champions want in on the action, then they and the bottom of League 2 take part in a mini tournament at the same time as the playoff mentioned above.

It doesn't help the second/third in League 1 at the moment, and doesn't really help with the issue of Champions, but it is a fairer compromise and would make for a really interesting season in 2020/21.

Thoughts?????

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3 hours ago, jagsfan57 said:

 


I have no doubt that the decision to end the season where it is will be the one taken.

But from my post isn’t it obvious that I don’t accept the principle that the top team at the moment should be promoted ?

My idea of the fairest way is to complete the season, no matter how long it takes. Next season can be adjusted to suit.

For me the next fairest would probably be to void the season - but I am not sure what that means with prize money

Does your definition of "no matter how long" include going beyond the end of June, allowing teams  to bin  out of contract dung and chuck cash at new signing?

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11 minutes ago, Spikethedee said:

For next season only, have two divisions in Scotland - current Premiership & Championship as Top League, and current League1 & League 2 as Lower League. Scrap the League Cup and start the season with a playoff between current bottom of Championship & Top of League 1 for right to play in top league next season. The two leagues play out as normal, with top 12 and bottom 10 in the top league making up the top two leagues for the season after, and top 10, bottom 10 in the second lower league making up the two lower leagues for the season after.  If the Highland League & Lowland League champions want in on the action, then they and the bottom of League 2 take part in a mini tournament at the same time as the playoff mentioned above.

It doesn't help the second/third in League 1 at the moment, and doesn't really help with the issue of Champions, but it is a fairer compromise and would make for a really interesting season in 2020/21.

Thoughts?????

You'll be popular in Kirkcaldy m9.

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1 minute ago, AyrTroopMajor said:

You'll be popular in Kirkcaldy m9.

It's a cross I'm willing to bear....

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1 hour ago, jagsfan57 said:

 


Currently not every team has played the same number of games. They haven’t played the same number of home and away and they have played all the teams the same number of time. That’s why using current standings isn’t fairer.

 

You can always adjust each team backwards removing any points gained until you reach the point where all teams have played the same. Simples.

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1 hour ago, Spikethedee said:

For next season only, have two divisions in Scotland - current Premiership & Championship as Top League, and current League1 & League 2 as Lower League. Scrap the League Cup and start the season with a playoff between current bottom of Championship & Top of League 1 for right to play in top league next season. The two leagues play out as normal, with top 12 and bottom 10 in the top league making up the top two leagues for the season after, and top 10, bottom 10 in the second lower league making up the two lower leagues for the season after.  If the Highland League & Lowland League champions want in on the action, then they and the bottom of League 2 take part in a mini tournament at the same time as the playoff mentioned above.

It doesn't help the second/third in League 1 at the moment, and doesn't really help with the issue of Champions, but it is a fairer compromise and would make for a really interesting season in 2020/21.

Thoughts?????

No.

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That's been 24 (twenty four) hours now wee Rudi has been pulling at Viking's coat tails trying to get an answer. 
Absolute mental case. 
Rudi or Methadone Mick?

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Two issues.

How do you keep clubs solvent?

How do you complete the season?

Most of the solutions are downright selfish (Ann Budge's, for example) to those that don't take account of the first question.

First priority is keeping clubs from administration - that needs hard cash from the governing bodies.

If that is in place then the best thing might be to curtail next season to allow the current season to be completed in July/August instead of the League Cup. That would mean a shorter League Cup format - no group games, for example, or no League Cup at all to allow a full league season on 2020-21.

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Hearts have asked the players and coaching staff to take a 50% wage cut! Wonder what the full time teams in the Championship and 1st Division will do

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Does your definition of "no matter how long" include going beyond the end of June, allowing teams  to bin  out of contract dung and chuck cash at new signing?


Yes

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There's absolutely no reason why our players can't continue the season by working from home. They'd be as effective doing this as they are when they show up at stadiums. The useless b*****ds.

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17 minutes ago, jagsfan57 said:

 


Yes

That ain't going to happen. The rules refer to a season and are explicit as to when it starts. They akso define when the season ends but give a number of options including "when the Board decide." As long as that decision can be seen to be fair and reasonable it will not be capable of being overturned by the Courts even if there are other reasonable options.

It is hardly fair and reasonable to allow the competition to complete with players who would not ordinarily have been in any squad.

You are doon.

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1 hour ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

How do you keep clubs solvent?

Usually upright in the cleaning cupboard. 

Thank you. 

Edited by Dele

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League reconstruction is the only way through this.

If football is suspended beyond August/September we face a much narrower window to try and fit a full 36/38 game season. More if we have playoffs and cups.

If European competitions remain in place they will eat up a lot of midweeks if teams from Scotland progress.

International weekends will also eat into the time available and with Euro 2021, domestic football will have to end at an earlier date than normal.

If we somehow get the league started in August then we could have the same setup as we do now. But if start heading to September/October then a shorter season will be required which a new setup will be needed.

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That ain't going to happen. The rules refer to a season and are explicit as to when it starts. They akso define when the season ends but give a number of options including "when the Board decide." As long as that decision can be seen to be fair and reasonable it will not be capable of being overturned by the Courts even if there are other reasonable options.
It is hardly fair and reasonable to allow the competition to complete with players who would not ordinarily have been in any squad.
You are doon.


I have already said that we probably will be relegated irrespective of the decision by the SPFL. However, I see that the EFL have decided to complete the season and plenty of pundits think the English premiership should be completed too.

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42 minutes ago, RedLichtie86 said:

League reconstruction is the only way through this.

If football is suspended beyond August/September we face a much narrower window to try and fit a full 36/38 game season. More if we have playoffs and cups.

If European competitions remain in place they will eat up a lot of midweeks if teams from Scotland progress.

International weekends will also eat into the time available and with Euro 2021, domestic football will have to end at an earlier date than normal.

If we somehow get the league started in August then we could have the same setup as we do now. But if start heading to September/October then a shorter season will be required which a new setup will be needed.

You can very easily have a shorter season without any reconstruction by just playing each other 2/3 times.

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7 hours ago, SandyCromarty said:

It is possible that until an approved vaccine is available and effective that the ban on large gatherings will continue for some time.

They said a vaccine may be 18 months away. Large gatherings can’t be put off for that long surely 😞 I’d predict 80% minimum of Scottish clubs would fold 

Edited by Thereisalight..

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