weetoonlad Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Don't see how Dundee can change their vote now. How do they, with a straight face, claim that without any other influence that they have persuaded themselves of the merits of the SPFL case. Can just see Drysdale on tv, trying to make that comment while gently nudging a giant swag bag of cash off screen with his heel. Surely we can expect a nice email to the board at 905am tomorrow reiterating their original intent so that we can all move on to the next level of this shit show.Dundee haven't voted Sent from my stolen Samsung s20 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers_Lad Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Nightmare said: I doubt that was in their thinking. Null and void isn’t on the table and I’m sure they’re fully aware that Raith will be playing in the Championship next season, no matter how it happens. They can dress it up all they want but that would be in their thinking along with they,re in with a chance of a play off..Nothing wrong with that but be open about it.End of the day,many if not most clubs voted in self interest which was to be expected You say null and void isnt on the table which is true for the moment but the way this whole shambles is panning out anything could be on the table eventually. Just for the record and even though we would be one of the beneficiaries of the proposal i,m against it. Reconstruction is the only fair way out of this but that ain,t going to happen as that doesnt suit the premier clubs or the TV deals Edited April 12, 2020 by Rovers_Lad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4d Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 How could you play this season to a finish in 10 months time? Most players are out of contact at the end of next month. Accept it, the season is finished. A decision has to be made on that basis.True, and a fair point. Either it’s a non starter or everyone accepts that squads will be a bit different when we eventually start again. It just doesn’t sit right that the season is decided on 3/4 of the games or that it is just wiped from existence. Those appear to be the most likely options though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, RossBFaeDundee said: We're changing the game, whether it's for our benefit or not. Discussions are to be had with the SPFL regarding payment prior to leagues ending. I'm sure if this unlocks the cash we'll get the same amount praise as we have had criticisms over the last few days... https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/spfl-hold-crisis-talks-face-21855816?2 They'll never agree to that, damage has gone too far, heads will need to roll at the top (Doncaster) before a lot of clubs trust is restored in the league body. Wouldn't be surprised if some clubs are already considering legal action against SPFL over Friday's shitshow This issue has gone way further than just money now for some clubs. Edited April 13, 2020 by rb123! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Has there been any indication of who the fourth club to vote no (or not vote yes) in L1/L2 was? So far I’ve only seen confirmation of Falkirk, East Fife and Stranraer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazbart Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 2 hours ago, eez-eh said: Has there been any indication of who the fourth club to vote no (or not vote yes) in L1/L2 was? So far I’ve only seen confirmation of Falkirk, East Fife and Stranraer. I’d take a punt at Brechin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/celtic/analysis-dundee-enjoying-their-status-kingmakers-2536871 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagsfan57 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Your optimistic god bless you That’s the point though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagsfan57 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 We're changing the game, whether it's for our benefit or not. Discussions are to be had with the SPFL regarding payment prior to leagues ending. I'm sure if this unlocks the cash we'll get the same amount praise as we have had criticisms over the last few days... https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/spfl-hold-crisis-talks-face-21855816?2How many inaccuracies or irrelevant facts are in that. I stopped reading after 2.It is irrelevant that 85% of clubs voted for. The only relevant fact is that 75% of championship clubs didn’t.Is £9M was being distributed to the lower league clubs. The premiership can’t get theirs until their league is called 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 How many pages we will manage today of people repeating exactly the same thing and speculating without having any further information? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: How many pages we will manage today of people repeating exactly the same thing and speculating without having any further information? 50 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 Just now, parsforlife said: 50 That’s ambitious, but there’s nothing wrong with ambition. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, jagsfan57 said: How many inaccuracies or irrelevant facts are in that. I stopped reading after 2. It is irrelevant that 85% of clubs voted for. The only relevant fact is that 75% of championship clubs didn’t. Is £9M was being distributed to the lower league clubs. The premiership can’t get theirs until their league is called 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: How many pages we will manage today of people repeating exactly the same thing and speculating without having any further information? Not sure on the volume but speculation is inevitable when nobody knows what the f**k is going on, imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger29 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/celtic/analysis-dundee-enjoying-their-status-kingmakers-2536871Are they the first to say the long form of the text messages posted on Twitter are accurate? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoonTon Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 7 hours ago, m4d said: True, and a fair point. Either it’s a non starter or everyone accepts that squads will be a bit different when we eventually start again. It just doesn’t sit right that the season is decided on 3/4 of the games or that it is just wiped from existence. Those appear to be the most likely options though. It's a terrible situation. There are three teams well on their way to winning their league and a tight promotion fight. There are a couple of teams well on their way to relegation (or a playoff in Brechin's case). There are plenty of playoff places up for grabs. But none of that can be finished - it just can't. The season cannot be voided either. So it ends the way it is now, with average points per game deciding positive. The playoffs cannot be played, so have been cancelled. Automatic promotion and relegation places are still in place. That's the situation. So clubs either accept that, or they don't. Perhaps clubs who don't accept it will be able to convince the other club to reconstruct the leagues in order to accept their vote. Or negotiate increased parachute payments. I would argue that any change should be made for the longer term, as an actual positive change. Whatever is done, it will be unfair on certain clubs. That's just the nature of it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Hazbart said: I’d take a punt at Brechin. Pretty sure they released a statement indicating they’d be voting for it. I’d guess Edinburgh City. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolph Hucker Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, jagsfan57 said: How many inaccuracies or irrelevant facts are in that. I stopped reading after 2. It is irrelevant that 85% of clubs voted for. The only relevant fact is that 75% of championship clubs didn’t. Talking of inaccuracies, your final sentence above would only be accurate if the final word was changed from “didn’t” to “haven’t”. It’s an ongoing situation, remember, maybe for as long as 28 days in total. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) Some Falkirk fans are still claiming that them voting against the proposal is all about sporting integrity, and that only they and the others who voted against have integrity whilst everyone who voted for lacks it and are terrible scum etc (have a wee look at their thread). Absolutely astonishing stupidity or breathtaking naivety. Edited April 13, 2020 by DA Baracus 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolph Hucker Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 No chance I’ll be looking at the Falkirk thread - I’d rather sandpaper my own nipples than do that - but it’s quite some time since Falkirk and sporting integrity had anything in common. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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