Ad Lib Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Not so cuddly anymore. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Bliss Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 21 minutes ago, Fifespud said: Granny are you a member DUSF? Of course he is. Their club’s on its knees asking for money and being told to f**k off by its fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: Not allowing the SPFL to relegate us with a quarter of the season left. Your club has behaved appallingly. Would say the blame at the moment should be proportioned 75% towards the SPFL for this stupid loophole of 28 days and 25% Dundee for ripping the absolute hole with discussions and clearly wanting some form of financial incentive which is morally wrong in every sense. Something you'd expect in some corrupt South American Football league. Edited April 14, 2020 by rb123! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad chad Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 28 minutes ago, kdyteejay said: But surely it’s up to all the clubs to garner all the information they feel they require before voting. If they haven’t that’s their own fault. We voted against it - your points only valid if we voted yes then changed our minds 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock Tamson Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 If it was mid-season then I think it could get messy but maybe with everything else that has been happening (in and out football) then people maybe don't have the energy to have a proper ding dong battle, I certainly don't. Without taking sides in the detail, the timing of the statement is an own goal by the club. There is literally no point in releasing a statement like that right now, even if it is the season for statements by everyone and anyone.Yip, the timing is honking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, rb123! said: Would say the blame at the moment should be proportioned 75% towards the SPFL for this stupid loophole of 28 days and 25% Dundee for ripping the absolute hole with discussions and clearly wanting some form of financial incentive which is morally wrong in every sense. Something you'd expect in some corrupt South American Football league. It wasn't a loophole it was literally in the Articles of Association, themselves being mostly derived from the Model Articles in the Companies Act 2006. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Bliss Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, rb123! said: Would say the blame at the moment should be proportioned 75% towards the SPFL for this stupid loophole of 28 days and 25% Dundee for ripping the absolute hole with discussions and clearly wanting some form of financial incentive which is morally wrong in every sense. Something you'd expect in some corrupt South American Football league. Lunatic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, rb123! said: Would say the blame at the moment should be proportioned 75% towards the SPFL for this stupid loophole of 28 days and 25% Dundee for ripping the absolute hole with discussions and clearly wanting some form of financial incentive which is morally wrong in every sense. Remember that Eric Drysdale, Dundee's Secretary confirmed to Scot Gardiner and Jacqui Low that Nelm's vote had been submitted at 4.48pm. He even cursed the team in his division that had not voted. Then Drysdale found out that his club was the culprit and was told not to resubmit the vote. And Dundee fans on here are now saying that this is ethical behaviour! Edited April 14, 2020 by Bishop Briggs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 40 minutes ago, rainbowrising said: I think their claim disappears in to a world of pain around valid proposals. As others have pointed out the SPFL Board consists of people form the clubs. It isnt some invisible group. The argument would be that the proposal was the best option in the current status quo. Aye it wiz naw it wisnae is a bit late now. If clubs see other options available now what were they doing last week? Competence is required from both sides The problem becomes defining what is, and isn't viable as a proposal. I mean, who arbitrates that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinkle Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Of course he is. Their club’s on its knees asking for money and being told to f**k off by its fans. Thats literally the complete opposite of whats happened here [emoji38] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 If either of Alloa or ourselves were bottom right now, there would be a lot less greeting about it. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 John Nelms five minutes before revealing his vote: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, Ad Lib said: It wasn't a loophole it was literally in the Articles of Association, themselves being mostly derived from the Model Articles in the Companies Act 2006. Well whatever it is it's still a stupid rule 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: Remember that Eric Drysdale, Dundee's Secretary confirmed to Scot Gardiner and Jacqui Low that Nelm's vote had been submitted at 4.48pm. He even cursed the team in his division that had not voted. Then Drysdale found out that his club was the culprit and was told not to resubmit the vote. And Dundee fans on here are now saying that this is ethical behaviour! Tbf, Dundee could claim that Drysdale was out of the loop and didnt have a scoobie what was going on. Wheel out testimony from people who knew him at Raith including such marvels as "loaning out your best player to a direct rival", "Letting a good prospect f**k off to a higher league when he was under contract for less than f**k all" and most famously "Not understanding the rules around emergency loans so that an outfield player had to go in goals for a crucial tie" and really it wouldn't take much to trash his credibility... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 minute ago, rb123! said: Well whatever it is it's still a stupid rule The whole point of it is to avoid arbitrarily short deadlines being imposed that would otherwise let an alert set of directors and shareholders to railroad through things without proper scrutiny. Its far more sensible than letting them pluck a deadline out their arses. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: If either of Alloa or ourselves were bottom right now, there would be a lot less greeting about it. Relegating or promoting any club with a quarter of the season left is not acceptable. However, nothing should surprise us us as sporting integrity in Scottish football died in 2012. The rules were ignored to allow a new club, without the required financial history, to join the old Third Division. Edited April 14, 2020 by Bishop Briggs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: Relegating or promoting any club with a quarter of the season left is not acceptable. What would you propose then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Bishop Briggs said: Relegating or promoting any club with a quarter of the season left is not acceptable. However, nothing should us us as sporting integrity in Scottish football died in 2012. The rules were ignored to allow a new club, without the required financial history, to join the old Third Division. In normal circumstances you are correct. These circumstances are anything but normal. The fact that there was no contingency in SPFL rules for dealing with such a situation is a fault of EACH AND EVERY member club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee-funked Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Anyone on here got a lawyers degree who can be arsed reading through that and give it to us in plain English lol. In saying that i've got f**k all else to do this evening so reading that should help pass the time.Cometh the hour, cometh the man.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Just now, Monkey Tennis said: What would you propose then? Finish the season and/or restructure to ensure that no club is worse off. My personal preference is for restructuring with 3 leagues of 14 clubs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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