Ludo*1 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/chairmans-statement-1-2-3 Ann Budge, to the surprise of absolutely no-one, will not be voting for the proposal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srw Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, ALJAGS76 said: Surely all teams would have to, at least, have played the same number of fixtures? Its based on points per game though, isn't it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weetoonlad Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Every proposed outcome is shite in response to an even shiter situation.My preference would be to play the games behind closed doors asap and curtail next season, scrapping the league cup but it seems that isn't a goer.I'm just in the wait and see group now. If united dont go up, f**k it, I'll be happy in 6 months if my wife and I are healthy enough so that she can get mildly annoyed at me coming in pished on a saturday night after an away day in Ayr.Perfect 100% 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, srw said: Its based on points per game though, isn't it. The league isn’t decided on the basis of “points per game regardless of how many games you’ve played” though. It’s determined by how you performed over the piece with a known number and equal number of games to your opponents. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 32 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: That's Ayr United confirmed they'll back this proposal: ETA: Click on the tweet as it's a thread of tweets. B..b..b..but the playoffs!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALJAGS76 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ad Lib said: The league isn’t decided on the basis of “points per game regardless of how many games you’ve played” though. It’s determined by how you performed over the piece with a known number and equal number of games to your opponents. That was what I was meaning! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srw Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ad Lib said: The league isn’t decided on the basis of “points per game regardless of how many games you’ve played” though. It’s determined by how you performed over the piece with a known number and equal number of games to your opponents. Yes, of course, that kinda goes without saying. The vote is to end the season now, hence why its been changed. These arent normal times, these arent normal circumstances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said: B..b..b..but the playoffs!! I've never once mentioned the play-offs as far as I can recall. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Why would Ayr be interested in the play offs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 We are the main Championship beneficiaries if this goes through. Despite that though, in truth I don't much like it. I'd prefer the season got finished whenever, necessitating a truncated next one if need be. I'd even prefer the whole thing was scrapped - null and void, as I think it's actually fairer. It does seem though that neither of those is practically or financially viable and if that really is the case, this 'solution' maybe is the fairest available. I don't think it's fair to tie the provision of funding to the outcome of the vote though. Neither do I think the tentative, vague dangling of league reconstruction over the process is useful for anyone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherEdinburghDoonhamer Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 We don't know how long this shite is going to keep us from playing. The way things are going it could even be this time next year, if ever. Despite Queens looking like being safe if the proposal is backed, I would much rather the season was played out whenever we go back. And it would be crap for Thistle to be relegated when they are only 2 points behind us with a game in hand. We've had a bit of an up and down season, occasionally being brilliant (Queens 4 Arabs 0, Dee 1 Queens 2) and shite (one point from 9 v Alloa), and I would rather Thistle went down, but not this way. Plus I would be happy to see Hearts get relegated so we had another 'big' team in the league after losing United. Sorry Dee but don't consider you to be a 'big' team. Does anyone really believe the European preliminary games will be started at the end of June when thousands of people are still dying every day at the moment. I hope I'm wrong about how long it will take, but I worry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, AnotherEdinburghDoonhamer said: We don't know how long this shite is going to keep us from playing. The way things are going it could even be this time next year, if ever. I've been wondering whether there will be a point if it keeps up when 'authorities' just go "Right, we've fucked it. Go enjoy yourselves while it lasts." I'd reckon about November. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: I've never once mentioned the play-offs as far as I can recall. No but others did and I quoted you as you posted the statement. Simmer down there is weeks of this to go 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, invergowrie arab said: No but others did and I quoted you as you posted the statement. Simmer down there is weeks of this to go I'm enjoying the drama, takes my mind off the tedium of the lockdown tbf. Edited April 8, 2020 by Ludo*1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 40 minutes ago, Ad Lib said: The league isn’t decided on the basis of “points per game regardless of how many games you’ve played” though. It’s determined by how you performed over the piece with a known number and equal number of games to your opponents. That’s the way it’s usually decided. It’s remiss of the Scottish footballing authorities not to have factored in a global pandemic into their rule book. What are they like? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomer Brown Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 anything that has the weegie, Edinburgh and Dundee **** raging is all good for me. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srw Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: That’s the way it’s usually decided. It’s remiss of the Scottish footballing authorities not to have factored in a global pandemic into their rule book. What are they like? Its quite staggering that some cant comprehend this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: That’s the way it’s usually decided. It’s remiss of the Scottish footballing authorities not to have factored in a global pandemic into their rule book. What are they like? If you fail to anticipate a scenario such as this you have a duty to produce a solution that Clubs would have agreed to if proposed before a season had started and therefore before they knew whether they stood to benefit from it. It is blatantly clear that more than two Championship clubs would not have agreed to a proposal such as this, given its implications for the positions they might have anticipated they would be at risk of finishing in. The fair solution is to seek to mitigate the consequences of calling the league prematurely, and to recognise that a failure to mitigate overrewards teams that didn’t (yet) fully earn success while overpunishing *only some* clubs that did not (yet) fully deserve punishment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ad Lib said: If you fail to anticipate a scenario such as this you have a duty to produce a solution that Clubs would have agreed to if proposed before a season had started and therefore before they knew whether they stood to benefit from it. It is blatantly clear that more than two Championship clubs would not have agreed to a proposal such as this, given its implications for the positions they might have anticipated they would be at risk of finishing in. The fair solution is to seek to mitigate the consequences of calling the league prematurely, and to recognise that a failure to mitigate overrewards teams that didn’t (yet) fully earn success while overpunishing *only some* clubs that did not (yet) fully deserve punishment. ^^^^ seething 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: That’s the way it’s usually decided. It’s remiss of the Scottish footballing authorities not to have factored in a global pandemic into their rule book. What are they like? After the 1st world war you would have thought all sporting authorities would have realised extremely serious and unexpected events can come along from time to time that COULD prevent a standard season being completed. You would also have thought someone in authority may have thought to insert a couple of sentences covering what the procedure should be if any future events prevented a season being completed. After the 2nd world war you would have thought it would have reminded someone once again that extremely serious and unexpected events COULD prevent a season from being completed. Surely they will make it third time lucky after this is over and take the sensible precaution to amend the rules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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