mishtergrolsch Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: How do you split a 14 team league, so you still have 4 OF games? Without making one half play more games than the other half? And without forcing one club to sit idle during every game week? Personally I couldn't give two flying fucks about them at any time never mind under these circumstances. Id split it 7-7. I'm sure one season of odd games wouldn't kill them since we had about 4 seasons without. Plus they'll have the cups the SFA can fix up to have an old firm meeting I'm sure. Have Barry Ferguson search about for some warm balls in the SFA office? Either that or cancel the cup competitions and make it a longer league campaign? f**k knows. Plus with no income, The Rangers will be The The Rangers by then so you can bet your Massey Ferguson the powers that be will make any reconstruction work. We're looking at exceptional circumstances and for one season to be a bit different shouldn't be as big a problem if the alternative is to void the lot and pretend nothing happened. Then you'd have legal issues all over the shop id imagine. Edited April 2, 2020 by mishtergrolsch 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Added to that, London is likely to be effected for far longer than the rest of the country given its density of population. There is no significant correlation between population density and spread of coronavirus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 It's going to be up to Doncaster whether to decide to null and void this season or promote 1st as champions and relegate bottom apparently. Unanimous agreement between the four nations was preferred outcome for Doncaster but England desperate to finish due to losing so much TV money.The fate of this season is in the hands of Neil Doncaster, what can possibly go wrong... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 It's going to be up to Doncaster whether to decide to null and void this season or promote 1st as champions and relegate bottom apparently. Unanimous agreement between the four nations was preferred outcome for Doncaster but England desperate to finish due to losing so much TV money.The fate of this season is in the hands of Neil Doncaster, what can possibly go wrong... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 I would suspect that a 14 team solution wouldn't pass because a lot of Championship clubs would oppose it. Wouldn't have thought that Ayr, Dundee, Dunfermline, Morton or Arbroath would be happy that ICT were going up automatically. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagsfan57 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 There's Dundee United furloughed everybody today. Everybody or non playing staff ? If clubs were anywhere decent they would top up their wages.It’s pretty disgusting that clubs are still paying the players their full wage but furloughing their admin staff - this isn’t specific to Dundee Utd 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Bliss Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) Should clubs furloughing wages be deducted points? Cant have clubs who overpay players, which they can’t afford, gaining an advantage over clubs footing the wages. Ironic that the 3 league leaders (Celtic, Utd, Cove) are furloughing 1st after vastly outspending the rest of the teams in their leagues. Yeah it sounds morally right to hand out titles,promotion etc to clubs that do this. Edited April 2, 2020 by Yenitit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) I've decided, in my infinite wisdom, the best thing to do would be to void the season and start from scratch. Year Zero. But how best to decide where clubs sit? Like the East of Scotland league did to accommodate the refugees from the juniors we will give our clubs a seeding based on current league and league position and then put them into roughly equal conferences whenever games begin again. Everyone plays home and away and the winners of each conference make up the Premier League, the 2nd place teams make up the league below and so on and so forth with regionalisation coming in whenever it suits. The 16 league winners will play off, home and away, to decide that season's champions. I have, handily, already created the leagues for everyone to enjoy. Celtic Stranraer Cove Rangers Gala Fairydean Huntly Dunbar United Wigtown & Bladnoch Invergordon Kilwinning Rangers Tayport Bathgate Thistle Burghead Thistle Cumbernauld United Forfar Albion Linlithgow Rose Community Muirkirk Juniors Maybole Juniors Rangers Forfar Athletic Edinburgh City Deveronvale Berwick Rangers Upper Annandale Crossgates Primrose Craigroyston Carnoustie Panmure Beith Juniors Montrose Roselea Aberdeen University JFC Blairgowrie Juniors Whitletts Victoria Buchanhaven Hearts Yoker Athletic Johnstone Burgh Motherwell Peterhead Elgin City University of Stirling Strathspey Thistle Linlithgow Rose Lochmaben Arniston Rangers Livingston United Inverness Bunillidh Forres Thistle Newburgh Glentanar J.F.C. Whitehills J.F.C. Vale of Leven Ashfield Aberdeen Clyde Cowdenbeath Wick Academy Gretna 2008 Lochar Thistle Sauchie Juniors Peebles Rovers Banks O'Dee Bridge of Don Thistle Kilbirnie Ladeside Sunnybank Stonehaven Buckie Rovers Kilsyth Rangers Royal Albert Thorniewood United Livingston Dumbarton Queen's Park Cumbernauld Colts Turriff United Jeanfield Swifts Creetown Easthouses Lily MW Thurso Fauldhouse United Kirriemuir Thistle Rosyth Newmachar United JFC Syngenta Bo'ness United Junior East Kilbride Thistle Forth Wanderers Hibernian East Fife Stirling Albion Keith Edinburgh University St Cuthbert Wanderers Blackburn United Ormiston Pollok Luncarty Harthill Royal Dundee East Craigie Blantyre Victoria Coupar Angus Dalry Thistle Wishaw Juniors Annbank United St Johnstone Montrose Annan Athletic Caledonian Braves Clachnacuddin Musselburgh Athletic Whitehill Welfare Hawick Royal Albert United Broughty Athletic Glenafton Athletic Deveronside Darvel Juniors Dundee Violet Neilston Juniors West Calder United Kello Rovers Vale of Clyde Kilmarnock Airdrieonians Stenhousemuir Nairn County Dalbeattie Star Heston Rovers Newtongrange Star Burntisland Shipyard Pumpherston Halkirk Utd Bonar Bridge Kirkintilloch Rob Roy Stoneyburn Cruden Bay Gartcairn Maryhill St. Anthony's St Mirren Falkirk Albion Rovers East Kilbride Lossiemouth Penicuik Athletic Lothian Thistle Hutchison Vale Tweedmouth Rangers Culter Dyce Scone Thistle Rutherglen Glencairn Fraserburgh United Dufftown J.F.C. 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DA Baracus Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Yenitit said: Should clubs furloughing wages be deducted points? Cant have clubs who overpay players, which they can’t afford, gaining an advantage over clubs footing the wages. Ironic that 3 league leaders (Celtic, Utd, Cove) are furloughing 1st after vastly outspending the rest of the teams in their leagues. No, because it isn't in the rules. Surprised Dundee haven't done it yet, as their huge losses also show that they are vastly overpaying and outspending as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Bliss Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 minute ago, DA Baracus said: No, because it isn't in the rules. Surprised Dundee haven't done it yet, as their huge losses also show that they are vastly overpaying and outspending as well. So clubs gain a sporting advantage is ok? Those huge losses that Mr Keyes and Mr Nelms cover 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Surprised Dundee haven't done it yet Dundee have insurance which covers this. 14 minutes ago, jagsfan57 said: Everybody or non playing staff? Everyone apart from two people, apparently. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Unanimous agreement between the four nations was preferred outcome for DoncasterWhy do we give a toss what England, Wales or Northern Ireland decide? They're as relevant as Hungary or Portugal.It takes some amount of leadership to sit back and copy whatever your neighbours do. If Scottish football had always thought like that we'd still be playing without crossbars and using underarm throw ins.^birthday caird/yer da/jumpers for goalposts pish 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 It's going to be up to Doncaster whether to decide to null and void this season or promote 1st as champions and relegate bottom apparently. Unanimous agreement between the four nations was preferred outcome for Doncaster but England desperate to finish due to losing so much TV money.The fate of this season is in the hands of Neil Doncaster, what can possibly go wrong...I expect we'll get a decision once he's off the phone to Sevco. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, jagsfan57 said: Everybody or non playing staff ? Everybody except a skeleton non playing staff according to their statement. So will every club be though, outside top division at least. Why on earth would you not? Footballers cant work. The scheme was designed for this sort of activity. Edited April 2, 2020 by Skyline Drifter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 22 minutes ago, Yenitit said: So clubs gain a sporting advantage is ok? Those huge losses that Mr Keyes and Mr Nelms cover You could say the same about Dundee United though, that their American oweners are covering their losses. Same with Cove and their owners. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 21 minutes ago, Dele said: Dundee have insurance which covers this. Seriously? I would be astonished if that is the case. Pretty much nobody else appears to have cover for a global pandemic, force majeure scenario. Even if they do I would expect it only to cover what other sources dont ie the extra 20%. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Skyline Drifter said: Seriously? I would be astonished if that is the case. Pretty much nobody else appears to have cover for a global pandemic, force majeure scenario. Even if they do I would expect it only to cover what other sources dont ie the extra 20%. What I was told a few weeks ago (before the UK reacted) was 6 clubs in Scotland shouldn't be affected too badly by this as they have insurance that covers it and Dundee are one. I posted it at the time. I've no idea what the insurance is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Bliss Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: You could say the same about Dundee United though, that their American oweners are covering their losses. Same with Cove and their owners. No they aren’t, they’re furloughing. Word on the pavey up here is the bank debt is going up and up. Were there rules about administration and liquidation before they started happening? Edited April 2, 2020 by Yenitit -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 47 minutes ago, DiegoDiego said: Why do we give a toss what England, Wales or Northern Ireland decide? They're as relevant as Hungary or Portugal. It takes some amount of leadership to sit back and copy whatever your neighbours do. If Scottish football had always thought like that we'd still be playing without crossbars and using underarm throw ins. ^birthday caird/yer da/jumpers for goalposts pish Cause SFA/SPFL don't have the balls to make a decision themelves, look at when it was announced that football was being postponed, we only announced it after the English FA announced it, same when they extneded the postponement time until April 30th, we announced it after English FA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 I wish tbh they would just hurry up and decide what to do because it's obvious no football will be able to be played, certainly with supporters, until August at the earliest. So imo just announce that the season has finished and it's either: 1. Null and Void 2. 1st and 2nd go up and bottom and 2nd bottom go down (personally wouldn't agree with this option) 3. Top 4 from Championship go up with no relegation happening so most people are pleased. Leaves 16 in the Premiership where we play each other twice, then in a final split top 8 play each other once and bottom 8 play each other once, a cup style draw would be used to decide who plays home and away in the split. Could use this opportunity as a trial season to see if it's a success and if it isn't bin it. Not sure how this option would work for further down the leagues cause you'd inevitably have to fill half of league 2 with premiership colt teams probably. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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