Trogdor Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Branch Ton said: It's quite understandable that a sociopath would struggle with the concept of feelings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 2 hours ago, craigkillie said: The part I'm still having difficulty processing is why the fact that people are dying of coronavirus is relevant here. Neither of those decisions (or a decision to complete the season in a few months) are going to make any difference to what happens to those ill people, but they are going to make a difference to clubs and their employees. Therefore these two things need to be completely separated when making decisions. You're right about making a difference, senior citizens are in the high risk area of this virus and according to my club the vast majority of season ticket holders are senior citizens and I would think that that is the same for most Championship clubs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Null and void is the only sensible answer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolph Hucker Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, virginton said: Around 40 million people died during the First World War and yet the Scottish top flight played a 30+ game calendar season in each of those four years. We didn't void the 1968-69 season when around 80,000 people in the UK died as a result of the 'Hong Kong' flu pandemic; nor the 57-58 season when another 33,000 were killed by a similar strain. More recently, an estimated 13,000 people died in the bog standard flu season of 2008-09 which went unremarked by everyone apart from medical experts. There is really no point at all in posting that, unless you felt it necessary to prove that you can use Google and Wikipedia just as well as the rest of us can. The most telling fact is that you fail to acknowledge that the fixtures were successfully completed in the years you mention. There was no nationwide, continent wide or worldwide suspension of football (and indeed virtually everything else) for an indefinite period, which is what we are seeing now. Yet again you’re comparing apples to oranges in an an attempt to make yourself look clever* . * - You failed. Edited March 24, 2020 by Rudolph Hucker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolph Hucker Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 hour ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: I said previously, and I still stand by this - until we can assurance the current financial stability of clubs during this period we will be unable to have decision. What's the point of of making a decision on the matches if we don't know if some teams are going to survive to play the remaining matches or play next season? There has to be some contingency plan discussed and ready to roll out as and when it’s deemed safe to restart football. The alternative is to do nothing and find ourselves in as clueless a position when the go-ahead is given as we are in now. If any teams are unable to complete this season’s fixtures (if that is the option decided on) then all of their previous results against all clubs would be voided. Having some sort of plan for the eventual resumption of the game is essential. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Null and void is the only sensible answer.I don't think null and void is sensible. This season wasn't a Kris Doolan goal against Morton, we can't simply pretend it never happened. The games were played. Declare the season over, no promotion or relegation but distribute prize money and bonuses accordingly. Let the results stand for the record books and disciplinary procedures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 27 minutes ago, DiegoDiego said: I don't think null and void is sensible. This season wasn't a Kris Doolan goal against Morton, we can't simply pretend it never happened. The games were played. Declare the season over, no promotion or relegation but distribute prize money and bonuses accordingly. Let the results stand for the record books and disciplinary procedures. Would agree with that as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolph Hucker Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 hour ago, DiegoDiego said: Declare the season over, no promotion or relegation but distribute prize money and bonuses accordingly. Let the results stand for the record books and disciplinary procedures. 38 minutes ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said: Would agree with that as well. Hmmm, you two wouldn’t have any ulterior motives here by any chance, would you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Rudolph Hucker said: Hmmm, you two wouldn’t have any ulterior motives here by any chance, would you? How very dare you. Edited March 24, 2020 by Bigmouth Strikes Again 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Has there been any confirmation about what's happening with player wages? Are the government loaning clubs money to give them 80% while they're furloughed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Thumper said: Has there been any confirmation about what's happening with player wages? Are the government loaning clubs money to give them 80% while they're furloughed? Paul McGowan said on Open Goal last night that quite a few clubs have a clause in contracts that allows them to withhold 'wages' should an event like this arise. The PFA are in talks with lawyers just now. Edited March 25, 2020 by Dele 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdyteejay Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 19 hours ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said: Null and void is the only sensible answer. Naw it isnae. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Thumper said: Has there been any confirmation about what's happening with player wages? Are the government loaning clubs money to give them 80% while they're furloughed? They arent lending it, they are giving it, but only to a maximum of £2500 per person per month. Football clubs are certainly eligible for the scheme, whether they choose to implement it is up to them. Of course the maximum will be well below the wage for most top division players and probably the Dundee clubs and maybe Thistle. Also, we dont know yet when the clubs will get the money back. They are still going to have to find it in the first place for a few weeks. 3 hours ago, Dele said: Paul McGowan said on Open Goal last night that quite a few clubs have a clause in contracts that allows them to withhold 'wages' should an event like this arise. The PFA are in talks with lawyers just now. Every club almost certainly has the same contracts. The SPFL issues a standard contract for clubs to use though I guess its possible the biggest clubs use something bespoke of their own. Edited March 25, 2020 by Skyline Drifter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grazza Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Should come to agreement for season to be completed. At least then there will be sufficient time to plan start date and length of the next season even if just playing shorter season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishtergrolsch Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Leagues finish as is, top teams champions, bottom teams relegated, playoffs decided by creating a Round Robin league in Fifa. Teams to be created specially by the developers and to be played co-op by each teams manager and captain. Streamed live on YouTube. Any advertising cash to be spread evenly amongst the league to help the clubs stay afloat. Job done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 7 hours ago, grazza said: Should come to agreement for season to be completed. At least then there will be sufficient time to plan start date and length of the next season even if just playing shorter season. Null and void the season. Next season starts with bonus points for league placings as they stand now - and some way to reward those moaning cnunts currently running away with their leagues. Ah fuckit, null and void this season and start next season with the points currently on the board standing. (in Utd's case, make that a negative points standing) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 45 minutes ago, mishtergrolsch said: Leagues finish as is, top teams champions, bottom teams relegated, playoffs decided by creating a Round Robin league in Fifa. ^^^ Shite at FIFA, IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishtergrolsch Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Dele said: ^^^ Shite at FIFA, IMO. Damn right. I will also add FIFA is shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 PES > FIFA 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 PES > FIFAGood to have you back 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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