Skyline Drifter Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Dele said: Guy I work with told me last week that he got 3 tickets for United Arbroath when they first come out. His daughter tried last Wednesday (maybe Thursday) to get a refund but was refused due to it not officially being cancelled. The news had just broke that the season was on hold so she thought fair enough. Anyway; he's went up for a refund yesterday and was told neither he, nor anyone else is getting one until the game is rescheduled and then they can get one. Surely that's not on? Are all clubs doing this with pre bought match tickets? No. Think we had sold about a dozen or so tickets for last fridays Ayr match when it was called off. Anyone who brought one back has been refunded. I dont think it is particularly fair not to refund a pre bought ticket right now but these are unique times. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I'm not sure that demanding refunds, cancelling subscriptions, etc. is the best way forward just now. Arbroath - and every other business - are going to take a massive hit very, very quickly. Cutting off/ withdrawing what little cash they've got just now will only exacerbate the problem. Also, a lot of businesses may well be technically insolvent now and shouldn't be refunding anybody in that case. If you can afford it you might want to keep paying to local clubs so that they still exist in the other side of this (subscriptions etc. I'm not suggesting people keep buying tickets for non-existent games). Easy for me to say. I'll probably take a different view in a couple of weeks when my own business goes tits up. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolph Hucker Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Pull My Strings said: I'm not sure that demanding refunds, cancelling subscriptions, etc. is the best way forward just now. Arbroath - and every other business - are going to take a massive hit very, very quickly. Cutting off/ withdrawing what little cash they've got just now will only exacerbate the problem. Also, a lot of businesses may well be technically insolvent now and shouldn't be refunding anybody in that case. If you can afford it you might want to keep paying to local clubs so that they still exist in the other side of this (subscriptions etc. I'm not suggesting people keep buying tickets for non-existent games). Easy for me to say. I'll probably take a different view in a couple of weeks when my own business goes tits up. You're totally correct. Unfortunately there are some who still don't grasp the realities of the situation the country, the world, finds itself in, so irrelevant questions and posts attempting to trivialise things will still be the order of the day for them. Sad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 15 hours ago, Dundee Hibernian said: They appear to have 'millions', perhaps they don't have it 'at their disposal'. If not, in these circumstances, I'd ask why? They've literally just concluded a deal to buy Hampden, and they did actually distribute £1.5m of funding to clubs earlier this week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorOnopko Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 The SFA's deal to buy Hampden was reported as being worth "significantly less" than £5 million and perhaps as little as £2m. If it's true that they still have north of £15 million in the bank after buying the stadium at a time when almost every senior club in the country is facing bankruptcy within months due to an unprecedented global crisis, then the decent and sensible thing to do would be to distribute most of that pile. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Rudolph Hucker said: You're totally correct. Unfortunately there are some who still don't grasp the realities of the situation the country, the world, finds itself in, so irrelevant questions and posts attempting to trivialise things will still be the order of the day for them. Sad. In fairness to @Dele he probably was having a pop at United without realising that the money would have been Arbroath’s. As I’ve posted elsewhere I have bought my ticket for the Arbroath game and they’re welcome to keep it regardless of what happens. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: In fairness to @Dele he probably was having a pop at United without realising that the money would have been Arbroath’s. As I’ve posted elsewhere I have bought my ticket for the Arbroath game and they’re welcome to keep it regardless of what happens. I wasn't having a pop at anybody. Folk making out like the clubs 'need' this money. So do the folk that have paid it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 28 minutes ago, Dele said: I wasn't having a pop at anybody. Folk making out like the clubs 'need' this money. So do the folk that have paid it. I was only joking (well half joking), I hope you are doing OK in these troubled times. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 On 16/03/2020 at 21:20, rainbowrising said: Rangers apparently want the games played in open stadiums and wont accept behind closed doors. They arent really getting this virus thing it would appear. Ibrox is full of fucking Rangers fans every other week. What's a bit of novel coronavirus? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 The remaining fixtures should be fulfilled with live streamed games of FIFA complete with fan nominated forfeits and apology letters to their opponent if they get gubbed 5-0 or worse. See how the league tables look after that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Granny Danger said: I hope you are doing OK in these troubled times. I'm very well, thank you. Enjoy the ham, rioja and the feet up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 5 hours ago, craigkillie said: They've literally just concluded a deal to buy Hampden, and they did actually distribute £1.5m of funding to clubs earlier this week. They have a lot of cash stored, it appears. What did they pay for Hampden, do you know? The £1.5 million is hardly going to help the clubs when it's broken down. Maybe the crisis will be a shove towards the two bodies combining and streamlining operations and costs. There are too many involved in the SFA taking advantage of expenses. That might stop for some if they haven't got a club which they may claim to represent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Early1981 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) Great read into the difficulties facing Scottish Football due to the coronavirus http://connectintoscottishfootball.sport.blog/2020/03/20/how-will-the-coronavirus-affect-scottish-football-️/ Edited March 20, 2020 by Early1981 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Dundee Hibernian said: They have a lot of cash stored, it appears. What did they pay for Hampden, do you know? They paid Queen's Park about £5 million for Hampden. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Are football clubs eligible for the job retention scheme just announced? That could basically be the difference between clubs staying afloat and going bust. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 56 minutes ago, RossBFaeDundee said: They paid Queen's Park about £5 million for Hampden. Thanks, craigkillie I was hoping he'd to do the sums to see if the SFA had been generous to clubs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 51 minutes ago, The Master said: Are football clubs eligible for the job retention scheme just announced? That could basically be the difference between clubs staying afloat and going bust. Good angle: hopefully the football authorities would support this, rather than try to apply some registration doublespeak to confuse the situation. Would clubs have to apply to the SFA to clarify that they can use a furloughed employment status? I can't think why not. You Dundee fans are quite a sensible lot, I'm beginning to realise. Well, some of you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 9 hours ago, VictorOnopko said: The SFA's deal to buy Hampden was reported as being worth "significantly less" than £5 million and perhaps as little as £2m. If it's true that they still have north of £15 million in the bank after buying the stadium at a time when almost every senior club in the country is facing bankruptcy within months due to an unprecedented global crisis, then the decent and sensible thing to do would be to distribute most of that pile. How long would that delay the inevitable? I also thought there was inherited debt came with Hampden, they'll have that to pay. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Early1981 said: Great read into the difficulties facing Scottish Football due to the coronavirus http://connectintoscottishfootball.sport.blog/2020/03/20/how-will-the-coronavirus-affect-scottish-football-️/ Starts with 'so'. Right away I concluded it wouldn't be a 'great read'. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) On 20/03/2020 at 17:15, The Master said: Are football clubs eligible for the job retention scheme just announced? That could basically be the difference between clubs staying afloat and going bust. I can't see any reason why they wouldn't be. Although the "up to maximum of £2,500" per month will limit the amount of cover it will give the big clubs. It equates to a weekly wage of about £720. It will almost certainly keep lower division clubs in business though. Edited March 21, 2020 by Skyline Drifter 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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