Bishop Briggs Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, SandyCromarty said: Again, all Insurance companies will have Force Majeure clauses built in on any policy and this epidemic is just such an event. They would be out of business if they didn't. The main saviour if it goes long term would have to be the government Companies take out business interruption and catastrophe cover for such extreme events. The major travel and transport companies are obliged by law to have catastrophe insurance. The Lloyds market specialises in providing such cover. Here's some examples from 2018 - https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/mar/21/lloyds-of-london-loss-hurricanes-earthquakes "Lloyd’s of London slumped to a £2bn loss last year, its first in six years, as the insurance market was hit by a series of major hurricanes and earthquakes. Hurricanes Harvey, Irma and Maria, along with an earthquake in Mexico, wildfires in California, monsoon flooding in Bangladesh and a mudslide in Colombia, cost the Lloyd’s market £4.5bn in claims, more than double the previous year when it paid out £2.1bn." "Last year’s 330 natural disasters are estimated to have caused a global economic loss of $353bn (£251bn), with Harvey, Irma and Maria accounting for 60% of the insured losses." The Coronavirus will cost the global insurance market a fortune. Lloyds insurers and "names" could find themselves facing financial ruin. Edited March 14, 2020 by Bishop Briggs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerafc Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 What you will see is 'Swiss Law' which is used in sports contracts and will use similar language to Force Majeure. Though as I mentioned in an earlier post the Rugby Authorities used Force Majeure in the last Rugby World Cup when they cancelled the Scotland v Japan game. I am more than hoping that this epidemic is short lived and over by the summer, all I am pointing out that if it goes way past that then harsher methods to reduce costs may be used by clubs, after all saving our clubs is a priority. Bear in mind that the vast majority of Boards in football are populated by businessmen. Scotland v Japan wasn't cancelled at the world cup, we got beat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTulip Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Three other games in the group stages of that Rugby World Cup were cancelled on grounds of health and safety and were all recorded as 0-0 draws. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Except pretty much nobody (other than Dundee fans winding up Arabs) is saying that. What people are saying is if we reach a stage that you cant get all the games played by the end of May then what are your options? Voiding it at that point is highly possible. Absolutely nobody is seriously asking for it to be voided right now.The only other option is playing in June but curtailing the following season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 33 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: 19 hours ago, Skyline Drifter said: Except pretty much nobody (other than Dundee fans winding up Arabs) is saying that. What people are saying is if we reach a stage that you cant get all the games played by the end of May then what are your options? Voiding it at that point is highly possible. Absolutely nobody is seriously asking for it to be voided right now. The only other option is playing in June but curtailing the following season. And how are clubs meant to fulfill these fixtures in June with no players? We will have 3 or 4 players under contract in June potentially. Not saying it can't be done but it will need some creative thinking. I don't think it's a terribly likely approach. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Hearts relegated Dun Utd promoted Partick Thistle relegated Raith Rovers promoted That's how it will pan out... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Colkitto said: Hearts relegated Dun Utd promoted Partick Thistle relegated Raith Rovers promoted That's how it will pan out... Pretty bs that the teams in the play off positions won't have an opportunity to be promoted but do think that's probably what will happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel wickson Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 4 hours ago, Skyline Drifter said: Prepare to be surprised. SPFL clubs generally use a standard contract issued by the SPFL and drafted by Harper Macleod. I see no evidence in it of any "Force Majeure" clause. Well, Ross Harper should be spanked with a slipper if that's the case... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 14, 2020 Author Share Posted March 14, 2020 33 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said: And how are clubs meant to fulfill these fixtures in June with no players? We will have 3 or 4 players under contract in June potentially. Not saying it can't be done but it will need some creative thinking. I don't think it's a terribly likely approach. Christ not the “we lost because we only had three players” excuse! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forfarton Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) On 13/03/2020 at 17:37, MallanandFlanagan said: There is the whole prize money aspect to work out too... What a mess Instead of allocating prize money by league position (where clubs could argue that they potentially could have finished higher up if all games were played) they should distribute the prize pot equally between all teams regardless of league. That would help the small clubs and hopefully prevent them going bust. The bigger clubs are more able to cope with a temporary reduction in income. Edited March 14, 2020 by forfarton Spelling 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay21 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, forfarton said: The bigger clubs are more able to cope with a temporary reduction in income. But can they ? Rangers along with another few clubs are already in financial trouble , their outlay is far superior to lower league clubs , pro rata most clubs will be in same position of needing cash very soon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Colkitto said: Hearts relegated Dun Utd promoted Partick Thistle relegated Raith Rovers promoted That's how it will pan out... Pipe down. We still have a game in hand over the Doonhamers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrunitedfw Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: Pipe down. We still have a game in hand over the Doonhamers. Oh aye and recent form certainly suggests you’d win that. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: Pipe down. We still have a game in hand over the Doonhamers. *verge of tears "McCall is sending Partick down, Partick down, he's a w****r" Edited March 14, 2020 by rb123! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Just now, rb123! said: *verge of tears Naw. The best thing about relegation would not having to visit a dump like Crappielow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Naw. The best thing about relegation would not having to visit a dump like Crappielow.Yeah swap it for dumps like Bayview or Balmoor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 The bishop appears to be a wee touch upset. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Christ not the “we lost because we only had three players” excuse!Nah we’re perfectly adept at losing with 11 players. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duszek Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 hours ago, ayrunitedfw said: Oh aye and recent form certainly suggests you’d win that. Harsh but fair. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 And how are clubs meant to fulfill these fixtures in June with no players? We will have 3 or 4 players under contract in June potentially. Not saying it can't be done but it will need some creative thinking. I don't think it's a terribly likely approach.How do you fulfill fixtures in July? You sign more players. Do the same, but a month earlier. All those out of contract players are going to want to play football somewhere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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