newcastle broon Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Just now, FairWeatherFan said: We are aware of the implications for our fellow pyramid leagues, the EoSFL and SoSFL, and will announce contingency plans to cover this in due course." Could well mean a single season of 17 or 18 depending on how the SoSFL decide on a champion. That's how I read it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: "Furthermore, the board would like to make it clear that it feels that no member club should be disadvantaged by the current health crisis we face, and as such there will be no relegation from the SLFL in season 2019/20. We are aware of the implications for our fellow pyramid leagues, the EoSFL and SoSFL, and will announce contingency plans to cover this in due course." Could well mean a single season of 17 or 18 depending on how the SoSFL decide on a champion. Unless kelty are promoted 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Depends if Threave want to go up - if not, the SOS can easily go for PPG as then Stranraer Reserves win. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz5 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Boy did I pick an inopportune moment to post my last one. [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787] 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieboy Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 30 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: "Furthermore, the board would like to make it clear that it feels that no member club should be disadvantaged by the current health crisis we face, and as such there will be no relegation from the SLFL in season 2019/20. We are aware of the implications for our fellow pyramid leagues, the EoSFL and SoSFL, and will announce contingency plans to cover this in due course." Could well mean a single season of 17 or 18 depending on how the SoSFL decide on a champion. So they are saying Bonnyrigg have not been disadvantaged then I don’t think they will see it that way 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanburn Dave Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 |From the EoSFL twitter :- Our board have a virtual meeting scheduled for Wednesday evening, at which of course matters in relation to leagues' conclusion are on the agenda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Highland and Lowland Leagues have both ended their seasons with Kelty declared Lowland Champions but no one relegated. Would have hoped for a more coordinated approach by all leagues, including SPFL. No indication regarding promotion which would require cooperation among Leagues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baker2 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 You have to imagine the east of Scotland will follow the same route! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Macguire Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 15 hours ago, cookieboy said: So they are saying Bonnyrigg have not been disadvantaged then I don’t think they will see it that way Bonnyrigg were never in control of their own destiny. Even if we were able to play all league games. They will certainly be disappointed but don't think they can complain too much. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 23 minutes ago, Jerry Macguire said: Bonnyrigg were never in control of their own destiny. Even if we were able to play all league games. They will certainly be disappointed but don't think they can complain too much. The pitch and all them postponements before the Clyde game looks to have taken its toll. It's a case of if only........ -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, baker2 said: You have to imagine the east of Scotland will follow the same route! If the EoS goes down the same route , using PPG with promotions but no relegations it looks like this: Premier Division Promoted to Lowland League: Bo'ness United (PPG: 2.238). Hill of Beath Hawthorn (PPG: 2.055) and Broxburn Athletic (PPG: 2.000) were next highest. No clubs relegated so 18 clubs in the Premier Division next season. Numbers to be restored to 16 clubs for the 21/22 season. Division One: Conference A Promoted to the Premier Division: Lothian THV (PPG: 2.250). Kinnoull (PPG: 2.235) and Leith Athletic (PPG: 2.120) were next. Conference B Promoted to the Premier Division: Tynecastle (PPG: 2.826). Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts (PPG: 2.250) and Glenrothes (PPG: 1.952) were next. If a third club is promoted to the Premier Division then the next highest PPG is with Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts. Next season's Division One Conferences would have 21 clubs from this season plus Eyemouth United plus up to 9 newcomers so 31 clubs. This suggests 2 Conferences of 16 and 15 each. (Both Conferences would be 16 clubs if only two clubs were promoted this time around.) Maybe the league will come up with something less obvious. We shall see! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Macguire Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 46 minutes ago, newcastle broon said: The pitch and all them postponements before the Clyde game looks to have taken its toll. It's a case of if only........ To an extent but you could also blame their good run in the Scottish Cup as well. Thats football im afraid, they weren't as far behind with their fixtures as others (including ourselves). So not sure their postponements had a massive effect. The fact is Kelty have been a machine this season and even when they haven't played well they've still managed to walk away with all 3 points more often than not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz5 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 If the EoS goes down the same route , using PPG with promotions but no relegations it looks like this: Premier Division Promoted to Lowland League: Bo'ness United (PPG: 2.238). Hill of Beath Hawthorn (PPG: 2.055) and Broxburn Athletic (PPG: 2.000) were next highest. No clubs relegated so 18 clubs in the Premier Division next season. Numbers to be restored to 16 clubs for the 21/22 season. Division One: Conference A Promoted to the Premier Division: Lothian THV (PPG: 2.250). Kinnoull (PPG: 2.235) and Leith Athletic (PPG: 2.120) were next. Conference B Promoted to the Premier Division: Tynecastle (PPG: 2.826). Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts (PPG: 2.250) and Glenrothes (PPG: 1.952) were next. If a third club is promoted to the Premier Division then the next highest PPG is with Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts. Next season's Division One Conferences would have 21 clubs from this season plus Eyemouth United plus up to 9 newcomers so 31 clubs. This suggests 2 Conferences of 16 and 15 each. (Both Conferences would be 16 clubs if only two clubs were promoted this time around.) Maybe the league will come up with something less obvious. We shall see! Personally, I don't think PPG is applicable in the conferences with such a disparity in fixtures played, home and away games and outstanding fixture lists. Plus you have included Kinnoull there who should be set to lose 3 points for fielding an ineligible player (suspended) from the start of their game versus Arniston which hasn't been deducted from the current league tables yet. I'd be both surprised and disappointed if the EoS went that route. We were still very much in control of our own destiny and believed we had as good a chance as anyone of going up, with the remaining fixtures, yet you've not even mentioned us. For me, only Tynecastle are assured of promotion on current standings and there's no fair way at all to split the other 6 sides chasing it, none of whom have any better chances than each other. Either find a way to promote them all, or just Tynecastle. Picking between them using any method on current standings which takes no account of the imbalance in fixtures would be as useful as picking names out of a hat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithgierose Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Null and void whole season. Go again next season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz5 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Null and void whole season. Go again next season. That would certainly be "fairer" than cherry picking between so many teams who have had good seasons and still in contention while at the same time rewarding everyone who hasn't had a good season through no relegation.It would still be shite, but less shite than PPG.That said, I still think there's merit in my post a few pages above as it would see no one disadvantaged and get things to the structure approved for 21/22. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwullieac Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 From Bonnyriggs statement looks like expansion of the LL was discussed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwullieac Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Surely in this case it's the same with the situation in the EoS premier as even if HoB were to win all their games in hand they would still have been behind Bonnyrigg were never in control of their own destiny. Even if we were able to play all league games. They will certainly be disappointed but don't think they can complain too much. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMan Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 The LL, EoS and SoS have expressed a desire to apply a consistent approach to this.I'd be astonished if the EoS decided on a completely different resolution to the LL. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Macguire Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, BMan said: The LL, EoS and SoS have expressed a desire to apply a consistent approach to this. I'd be astonished if the EoS decided on a completely different resolution to the LL. 12 minutes ago, bigwullieac said: Surely in this case it's the same with the situation in the EoS premier as even if HoB were to win all their games in hand they would still have been behind I agree with BMan on this one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz5 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Well that would be shite given the leagues, league structures and fixturing isn't consistent.Trying to fit a square peg in a round hole in the name of consistency would be a cop out in my opinion.Having shown over the last 3 years an ability to deploy unique solutions for unique problems we know it's something the EoS in particular are more than capable of doing and doing in an "inconsistent" way when compared to the LL and SoS.At conference level in particular, this is very much a unique problem not mirrored anywhere else in the league structure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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