FairWeatherFan Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 38 minutes ago, Cameron Wilson said: Least worst option I think is to finish this season when possible, and cancel cups if necessary. It's a tough call as most clubs are 2/3 of the way through their season, it feels like we are too far gone to cancel it, yet there's too many games left for it to be an easy decision. More radical suggestion: arrange the fixtures in such a way so that promotion and relegation is decided as quickly as possible. Then either cancel the outstanding games, or play them when possible over the next year for the sake of completeness. No idea if this is really practical or not, just throwing it out there. But what's the cut off point for a league like the EoS that has a half dozen or more applicants to introduce into their set up? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyBear Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I see the Hearts statement says they dont see any football being played till July/August. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Wilson Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 6 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said: But what's the cut off point for a league like the EoS that has a half dozen or more applicants to introduce into their set up? That could depend on the state of play in the relevant leagues the applicant clubs are coming from. If the ERJFA also decided to finish their season, no clubs would be sitting idle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamfinderscot Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 I see hearts have stated about 50% wage cut across all staff. Is this legal? Could it be phased out at lower levels of the game like the EOSFL which I do take a keen interest in. Also as a player or club do you feel obligated to receive or pay wages? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buloyal Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 You can’t just void a season. ! It’s as simple as that ! Either it’s played to a finish and the delaying or scrapping of next season but you can’t just scrap a season with a couple of months to go and throw it away! So many different issues with that being sponsors /season tickets/budgets/ contracts prepaid sponsors /licensing etc etc and the list goes on. Nothing of this is done for next season so the scrapping of that or delaying there is no issue. Either that promote who’s at top and no relegation. Means that the best team so far gets promoted and make leagues bigger with more to go down from leagues next season. Scrapping isn’t an option 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 18 minutes ago, buloyal said: You can’t just void a season. ! It’s as simple as that ! Either it’s played to a finish and the delaying or scrapping of next season but you can’t just scrap a season with a couple of months to go and throw it away! So many different issues with that being sponsors /season tickets/budgets/ contracts prepaid sponsors /licensing etc etc and the list goes on. Nothing of this is done for next season so the scrapping of that or delaying there is no issue. Either that promote who’s at top and no relegation. Means that the best team so far gets promoted and make leagues bigger with more to go down from leagues next season. Scrapping isn’t an option Are you ok? That comes over as desperate. Scrapping next season is ok but scrapping this season isn't! Anything is surely possible but no point getting exasperated at the moment. It will all become clear eventually. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieboy Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 26 minutes ago, buloyal said: You can’t just void a season. ! It’s as simple as that ! Either it’s played to a finish and the delaying or scrapping of next season but you can’t just scrap a season with a couple of months to go and throw it away! So many different issues with that being sponsors /season tickets/budgets/ contracts prepaid sponsors /licensing etc etc and the list goes on. Nothing of this is done for next season so the scrapping of that or delaying there is no issue. Either that promote who’s at top and no relegation. Means that the best team so far gets promoted and make leagues bigger with more to go down from leagues next season. Scrapping isn’t an option Take it that view would change if Lithgie were top of the league 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allnitelong Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 hours ago, cookieboy said: Take it that view would change if Lithgie were top of the league Pmsl if The Rose were in that position the bonyuckers would be falling over each other to scrap the season 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boheesian Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 hours ago, cookieboy said: Take it that view would change if Lithgie were top of the league Banter or shit reply. WTF has Luthgy got to do with it. Anyway IMO we don’t have a next season till this current season has been decided. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieboy Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, boheesian said: Banter or shit reply. WTF has Luthgy got to do with it. Anyway IMO we don’t have a next season till this current season has been decided. Banter but you are talking nonsense you say cancel next season but not this one get a grip 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boheesian Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, cookieboy said: Banter but you are talking nonsense you say cancel next season but not this one get a grip Sorry I should have said till a decision has been on the current one. Which won’t be easy. Never used the word cancel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 4 hours ago, buloyal said: You can’t just void a season. !... Scrapping isn’t an option You can, and it is. The SOSFL was voided in 2001 because of foot and mouth, with the season being brought to a halt about the same time of year as now. It may not be the option you prefer, but it's definitely an option. There are several options - finish the league and re-jig next season to get back on track, void this season, play some sort of partial end to this season, take the leagues as they are. All have their pros and cons, but all are options and reasonable people can reasonably disagree as to which is the least worst option. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieboy Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, boheesian said: Sorry I should have said till a decision has been on the current one. Which won’t be easy. Never used the word cancel. Scrapping or cancel one and the same 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 18 minutes ago, GordonS said: You can, and it is. The SOSFL was voided in 2001 because of foot and mouth, with the season being brought to a halt about the same time of year as now. The key difference with the SoSFL season is no promotion and relegation to worry about. Which is why this will run and run. I imagine a lot of this is going to take on a top down approach. SPFL try and finish the season. The HL/LL are probably going to want to finish the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Number of league games left to play; Kinnoull FC 17 Easthouses Lily MW 16 Ormiston 15 Jeanfield Swifts 14 Oakley United 14 Burntisland Shipyard 14 Peebles Rovers 14 Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts 14 Edinburgh United 14 Linlithgow Rose 13 Glenrothes 13 Preston Athletic 13 Hill of Beath Hawthorn 12 Dundonald Bluebell 12 Penicuik Athletic 12 Whitehill Welfare 12 St Andrews United 12 Dalkeith Thistle 12 Coldstream 12 Arniston Rangers 12 Broxburn Athletic 11 Tynecastle 11 Tranent Juniors 10 Camelon Juniors 10 Blackburn United 10 Lothian Thistle Hutchison Vale 10 Dunipace 10 Haddington Athletic 10 Tweedmouth Rangers 10 Bo'ness United 9 Musselburgh Athletic 9 Dunbar United 9 Crossgates Primrose 9 Leith Athletic 9 Heriot Watt University 9 Craigroyston 9 Stirling University (EOSFL) 9 Hawick Royal Albert United 9 Sauchie Juniors 8 Newtongrange Star 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/coronavirus-joint-response-group-update-19-march/?rid=13929 Quote the Scottish FA confirms that football in Scotland will not resume before 30 April. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 48 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/coronavirus-joint-response-group-update-19-march/?rid=13929 If this runs into September or october we would be aswell just continuing and writing off next season 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, AlanCamelonfan said: If this runs into September or october we would be aswell just continuing and writing off next season Except there's x amount of applicants waiting to be accepted into the EoSFL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, AlanCamelonfan said: If this runs into September or october we would be aswell just continuing and writing off next season Contracts expire 30th June. There's upto 8 new clubs applying. It simply isn't practical to continue this season indefinitely and writing off next season. Looking at the figues above you're looking at 9-10 weeks to completely finish the league season, scrapping cups. That is in addition to 3 or 4 weeks "pre-season". So maybe 3-4 months to complete the league season (not taking into account the weather). Clubs need to start sorting player contracts and budgets for next season, and start raising revenue from ST sales and other ventures. Players and coaches will also be wanting to go on holiday once the travel restrictions make it practical, as will referees and committee. The PM said today they they hope to see the "tide turning" (ie the peak in cases heading downwards) in 12 weeks, that's mid June and that's just for things to begin to start looking better. IMO we need to accept this season will not finish, and declare that on resumption of football (whenever that is) it will be 2020-2021. Let's say by some miracle we can start pre-season end of June and start playing mid July, great, ease clubs gently back into the new season allowing for holidays etc. and get the new clubs on board. However I think that is excepionally optimistic. Ian Maxwell doesn't think Scotland will be playing Israel in June. What's important is that a solution for the SPFL isn't neccesarily the best for anyone else, a solution for the LL may not be best for the EoS. EoS need to do what is best for their members. Edited March 19, 2020 by Burnie_man -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boheesian Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 12 hours ago, cookieboy said: Scrapping or cancel one and the same Never said either. Maybe postpone the season or is that too complicated for you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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