Romeo Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Club(s) with the most recent history of success in Europe. The last 40 years seems a reasonable cut-off point. Anything before that to be disregarded. ”Success” to be defined as actually winning any of the UEFA competitions. if insufficient clubs meet the criteria , then remaining slots available for Scottish clubs to be decided by ballot. Club(s) who have at any time previously been banned from UEFA competitions or been ordered to play behind closed doors due to their fans being animals are to be ineligible for said ballot. This seems reasonable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, A96 said: Club(s) with the most recent history of success in Europe. The last 40 years seems a reasonable cut-off point. Anything before that to be disregarded. ”Success” to be defined as actually winning any of the UEFA competitions. if insufficient clubs meet the criteria , then remaining slots available for Scottish clubs to be decided by ballot. Club(s) who have at any time previously been banned from UEFA competitions or been ordered to play behind closed doors due to their fans being animals are to be ineligible for said ballot. I would go for the last 60 years as a cut off and only those that made the last 4 of the big European cup, not the diddy one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Just now, johnnydun said: I would go for the last 60 years as a cut off and only those that made the last 4 of the big European cup, not the diddy one. We're still in the running then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 minute ago, The DA said: We're still in the running then. Celtic, Dundee & Dundee United it is then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Innes Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 38 minutes ago, johnnydun said: I would go for the last 60 years as a cut off and only those that made the last 4 of the big European cup, not the diddy one. Make it 65 years! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vimto90 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Celtic would have went into win the league debating this is nonsensical. Hearts however would feel very hard done by I agree despite the fact they have been shite and probably deserve it. However I would be happy to compromise. If Celtic were to not have the title awarded to them due to the season being incomplete then it would only be fair that The Rangers were made to stop laying claim to the 54 titles won before they existed. Fairs fair and alll that F*ck up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, Vimto90 said: 2 hours ago, Jinky67 said: Celtic would have went into win the league debating this is nonsensical. Hearts however would feel very hard done by I agree despite the fact they have been shite and probably deserve it. However I would be happy to compromise. If Celtic were to not have the title awarded to them due to the season being incomplete then it would only be fair that The Rangers were made to stop laying claim to the 54 titles won before they existed. Fairs fair and alll that F*ck up f**k you 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 28 minutes ago, St Innes said: Make it 65 years! Anything for the HiDee alliance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Innes Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 7 hours ago, kingjoey said: The Celtic and Liverpool scenarios are totally different, no matter what Lennon says. Liverpool are 25 points ahead of the only team that can overtake them, Manchester City. If Manchester City were to win their one game in hand, and also beat Liverpool in the one match left to play against each other, Liverpool will still be 19 points ahead with 8 matches left. Celtic are 13 points ahead of Rangers. If Rangers were to win their one game in hand and also win both remaining matches against Celtic, the gap would only be 4 points with 6 other games to play. Even allowing for Celtic's vastly superior goal difference, a 5 point gap to make up in 6 games is hardly out of the question. Lennon trying to make out that Celtic are as uncatchable as Liverpool is fantasy. And Klopp's statement really showed the difference in their priorities despite the fact that this would have been Liverpool's first title in 30 years. I for one admire his take on this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Raidernation Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Finish the season when possible.Void next league season and just have a 44 team knockout competition played home and away ties.Final 4 qualify for Europe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Finish the season when possible.Void next league season and just have a 44 team knockout competition played home and away ties.Final 4 qualify for Europe Surely the safest way to cut down on intermingling and possible contagion would be 22 league of two, with teams playing each other 44 times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddie06smfc Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 The only viable option is to restart the season when it is safe to do so. Play to the 33 games, scrap the post-split games and play-offs, complete the Scottish cup and fire Alex Rae towards the moon. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftk Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 The only viable option is to restart the season when it is safe to do so. Play to the 33 games, scrap the post-split games and play-offs, complete the Scottish cup and fire Alex Rae towards the moon.You either play the 38 games or null and void the season. Nothing else is acceptable. You cant change the rules after the season has started. I would restart the season once safe to do so. If this means changing or shortening next season then do that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaintee Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 The ideal scenario is that the games were not cancelled. But they are so anything else is not the ideal scenario. But best second choice is clearly to finish the season. Pity we don't play on with Hearts on the ropes, and the **** must be thinking the same about the ****. The problem comes when we have to move into the new season. Hearts could have bought a whole new team by then,, so the SPFL have to ensure that only currently registered player can play in the rest of "this season," There are circumstance were we wont be able to finish the league. In that case, it a choice between awarding the league and voiding the league. Voiding the league has some president, and could be very funny. Imagine the arguments about 10 in a row, and if that means Celtic run resets at zero. Dundee United not being promoted also very funny. But instinctively this feels wrong. Celtic and Dundee United are effectively being denied what is obviously what they deserve. Play offs make no sense to me. This means a complete change in the rules that were there when we started the league. And if we can play playoff, why not finish the league. That means awarding teams Champions. Again Sevco will go mental so... Good. But it needs to be on some kind of fair decision. At the moment, some teams have games in hand. We could either deduct the last game's points (ouch) for teams that played too many games, or award the teams three points each for unplayed games, or their average points per game. Or rewind the league to the point were everyone has played each other twice. In any off these Award scenarios nothing changes Celtic win, Hearts go down. Controversial, although the hearts going down could be sorted by league reconstruction. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 hours ago, St Innes said: And Klopp's statement really showed the difference in their priorities despite the fact that this would have been Liverpool's first title in 30 years. I for one admire his take on this. It did show the difference of the priorities of Liverpool, via Klopp, and Celtic, via Lennon. Liverpool’s stance is the epitome of class, looking st the wider picture, with the priorities of the club way back in the pecking order. Celtic’s stance is utterly classless, with no focus on the wider picture only what’s in it for them. It really was a disgraceful statement by Lennon in the circumstances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Is it Liverpool's stance? Or is it just Klopp's? Karen Brady has come out and said it should be voided. Many clubs will have selfish points to make when it comes to talking about what should be done, but not many will come out and say the same. And someone like Klopp saying what he said is fine, because ultimately it's not his decision and can give his opinion all he wants. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 29 minutes ago, ftk said: 1 hour ago, buddie06smfc said: The only viable option is to restart the season when it is safe to do so. Play to the 33 games, scrap the post-split games and play-offs, complete the Scottish cup and fire Alex Rae towards the moon. You either play the 38 games or null and void the season. Nothing else is acceptable. You cant change the rules after the season has started. I would restart the season once safe to do so. If this means changing or shortening next season then do that. Obviously the ideal scenario is that the remaining matches are played, but no one knows how long this “break” is going to last, no one. You would hope that UEFA will come up with an outcome that is a coverall for every country’s league to take the decision making away from each individual association, and take that pressure off them. This pressure is particularly intense here in Scotland with “them” and “them” to satisfy. As for changing the rules, as someone else pointed out earlier in the thread, there is legislation in the existing rules to cover ending the season as things stand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, ftk said: 1 hour ago, buddie06smfc said: The only viable option is to restart the season when it is safe to do so. Play to the 33 games, scrap the post-split games and play-offs, complete the Scottish cup and fire Alex Rae towards the moon. You either play the 38 games or null and void the season. Nothing else is acceptable. You cant change the rules after the season has started. I would restart the season once safe to do so. If this means changing or shortening next season then do that. I suggested something similar several pages ago. When able to do so, whether in July, August... start by finishing this season from where it was suspended. Even if it is just league games, with casualties of war being the Scottish Cup semis and final. Accomodate this by scrapping next season’s League Cup and Diddy Cups. Finish the outstanding league campaign, champions and relegation is fairly decided, take a break of say one or two weeks, then kick off season 2020/21 as some sort of truncated competition. At least everyone would start at zero points, and in the division their results merited them being in. Ditch the winter break, just this once, free up another period. Something can surely be worked out. Obviously, there are logistical challenges in making this work, but there are shitloads of problems in any scenario involving voiding / cancelling / Bobby Ewing waking up in the shower. Edited March 14, 2020 by pozbaird 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Grimes Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 The Leagues are fine as they are Is this an unpopular opinion? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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