Gordon EF Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 2 hours ago, stevoraith said: This is the problem with the old firm- because they are glory-hunting arseholes they think that every other football fan is too and we must support one of them as our ‘big team’ and therefor if something doesn’t suit them it’s because we favour the other one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL-FFC Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 55 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect You just described our board in that one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 2 hours ago, SouthLanarkshireWhite said: What if legions of the Green brigade turn up at the ground to 'celebrate' winning the league and their chums over the city take offence? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Homer Sandoval said: Whilst your sentiment is correct, the reality is that it's not going to happen. Scottish football is tied into the Rangers/Celtic axis and it's never going to change. Exactly. Supporters are always full of righteous indignation at the SFA/SPFL accommodating Rangers and Celtic, but their clubs continually flash their knickers at both for a glance in their direction. Hope for a cup tie to boost the budget and insist on as many games against them as possible. If you're keen to see the back of them, pressure your club, cancel your tv subscriptions, stop going until they listen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL-FFC Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, NewBornBairn said: I call your Vickers and present you the GMPG to the Jimpy as it is commonly known Edited March 20, 2020 by AL-FFC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, AL-FFC said: I call your Vickers and present you the GMPG to the Jimpy as it is commonly known For extra lols, send the paras to Celtic Park 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 2 hours ago, NewBornBairn said: Waste of good bullets, as everyone knows you have to drive a stake through the heart of a Bigot Brothers fan to stop them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Social distancing could last up to a year.Think our clubs are fucked if they have to play next season behind closed doors.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 On the bright side, clubs should now not need to worry about going bust. 80% of wages will be covered at least from March 1st until the end of May, and it’ll be extended if necessary. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I’m not sure about that either.The latest Parliament debate is whether the emergency powers should expire after 6 months or can be enforceable for up to 2 years..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Paco said: On the bright side, clubs should now not need to worry about going bust. 80% of wages will be covered at least from March 1st until the end of May, and it’ll be extended if necessary. What if the club's operate part time? Why should part time footballers, most of whom will have a full time job get 80%? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL-FFC Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 SPFL clubs have asked the Scottish Govt to extend the ban on fixtures from 30th June to the 1st July so that insurance can kick in apparently to cover operating costs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevoraith Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 What if the club's operate part time? Why should part time footballers, most of whom will have a full time job get 80%?So part-time employees shouldn’t be entitled to the help? (Or rather employers of part-time employees). What about wee Jeanie down the road that works a couple of mornings in the library and a Friday afternoon in the post office?You can’t exclude some occupations based on some sort of moral scale of which jobs deserve help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 7 hours ago, stevoraith said: So You were doing so well up to this point. Wee Jeannie with her part time jobs will be in receipt of benefit to supplement her income. If she loses her part time income her Universal Credit rises. Do you think it's fair that a part time footballer on a couple of hundred pounds a week, many on more, get 80% on top of their full time wage from other work? The only reason they might get is it'll be easier to administer payment without any checks than means test it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevoraith Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Yes, I do think it’s fair. Full time workers earning up to £2500 per month will have 80% of their wages paid. Thats £30k per year. What if a footballer is on £25k a year in his full time job and then tops up that income with £400 a month from playing football? Why should he not get all (well 80%) of his wages paid?Not all part time workers claim benefits either- plenty of people work full time and then drive taxis or work in a bar at the weekend to supplement their income. Or simply only work a few days a week. Should they not be paid?You’re just trying to take the moral high ground when it’s not really justified. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Do you think it's fair that a part time footballer on a couple of hundred pounds a week, many on more, get 80% on top of their full time wage from other work? You're assuming he has a full-time job as well as the football. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 4 hours ago, stevoraith said: Yes, I do think it’s fair. Full time workers earning up to £2500 per month will have 80% of their wages paid. Thats £30k per year. What if a footballer is on £25k a year in his full time job and then tops up that income with £400 a month from playing football? Why should he not get all (well 80%) of his wages paid? Not all part time workers claim benefits either- plenty of people work full time and then drive taxis or work in a bar at the weekend to supplement their income. Or simply only work a few days a week. Should they not be paid? You’re just trying to take the moral high ground when it’s not really justified. Because he isn't reliant on it as his primary source of income. HMRC might be interested in the other examples you quote. Ask someone who is self employed and hasn't yet been included in the new scheme if it's moral to pay someone for what is essentially a lucrative hobby, while others they miss out. Your motivation is to ensure your club come out as unscathed as possible. As I said they'll get it because it's easier to administer, that doesn't mean it's fair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevoraith Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 You’re right that the main reason they’ll get it is that’s it’s easier to administer. You think that everyone who works a part time job to supplement their main income is doing it cash in hand and not telling HMRC?You think that they all do it just for some pocket money and not use it to actually live on? And you think that footballers are different to other workers because they enjoy their job?Look, of course some part-time footballers will be earning decent money in their day jobs. And I’d agree with you that subsidising the part-time wages of someone earning £50k a year in their main job isn’t the best use of the governments money. But not all part-time footballers earn good money away from football and I’d imagine many of them use their football income to pay the bills. It’s not fair to exclude them because of the industry they work in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curler Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 If people are being advised to keep a distance of 6 foot between them for at least a year, surely football can’t take place. There would be no tackles, players having to wash their hands each time they took a throw in. No more jostling in the penalty box. I would image the scores would be through the roof and would end in a draw. I am sure there are things but can’t think of them at the moment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Just been doing a recalibration of the stats I posted on here a week or so ago. 5683 cases today. If the rate of increase continues at 20%, (it was 12.5% today for a change), three weeks today there will be 261k reported cases in the UK.Be interesting to see what actually happens and whether the restrictions have any impact.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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