Dundee Hibernian Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Castle Wemyss at Wemyss Bay. First picture is from 1899, the second might be the 1950s. Fell into disrepair in the late 50s, and was finally demolished in 1984. Part of the estate, to the north, was sold for the construction on Inverkip Power Station, commencing in 1970 and itself demolished by 2013. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Richelieu Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/ideas/videos/the-underappreciated-beauty-of-brutalism/p083wtwr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cardinal Richelieu said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/ideas/videos/the-underappreciated-beauty-of-brutalism/p083wtwr Lovely short documentary, featuring Cumbernauld Town centre too. I recall Woolco there, building now demolished, and I think the Galbraiths Supermarket. But was it Galbraiths before or after Woolco? And were these meant to be penthouse flats in the new town centre, above Galbraiths? Edit to say: the brutalist style of that period tends to remind me of airports, even though most have been modernised 'away' from that architectural style. Edited February 24, 2020 by Dundee Hibernian see comment 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, Cardinal Richelieu said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/ideas/videos/the-underappreciated-beauty-of-brutalism/p083wtwr The only pro-Brutalism argument from that isn't a particularly strong one imo: Edited February 25, 2020 by Hedgecutter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 50 minutes ago, Dundee Hibernian said: Lovely short documentary, featuring Cumbernauld Town centre too. I recall Woolco there, building now demolished, and I think the Galbraiths Supermarket. But was it Galbraiths before or after Woolco? And were these meant to be penthouse flats in the new town centre, above Galbraiths? Edit to say: the brutalist style of that period tends to remind me of airports, even though most have been modernised 'away' from that architectural style. I remember being taken to Woolco as a "treat" . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaa Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 On 23/02/2020 at 20:00, milton75 said: I love this sort of thing as the "here's what might have been" is endlessly fascinating. It's why I've always thought I'd like alternative history or steampunk style novels, but I've never got my lazy arse around to reading anything like that. For anyone else that likes this sort of thing I strongly recommend getting a copy of this book: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Unbuilt-America-Forgotten-Architecture-1983-02-01/dp/B01FEKULOA/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=unbuilt+america&qid=1582486149&s=beauty&sr=8-2 Get the hardback, but obviously don't pay big bucks for it. If you set a search reminder on ebay or check every now and then on Amazon it can be had for a tenner. I'm tight as f-ck and always determined to never overpay. It's a fantastic book and filled with lovely sketches and drawings. There's a mix of failed competition entries from Architectural firms, concept art for city redevelopments, completed conceptual pie-in-the-sky stuff, and other proposals that simply didn't get off the ground because the political wind changed. A few examples: Elevated Sidewalk - cover to Scientific American 1913 Spiral Urban Hierarchies How to survive the fallout And lastly, a proposed presidential summer retreat. When I look at your picture of the Spiral Urban Hierarchies I keep thinking of the old Whitfield Skarne blocks in Dundee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 19 hours ago, Hedgecutter said: Reminds me of the (relatively) nearby proto-Carnegie Drive thoroughfare that was Reform Street. Same place below ~50 years apart where you can (just) see that they kept a pub (currently Coady's): I wonder if that's the same bus though? Coadys in the 1980s used to put on strippers at lunchtime for the discerning Dunfermline gent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 20 hours ago, Hedgecutter said: Reminds me of the (relatively) nearby proto-Carnegie Drive thoroughfare that was Reform Street. Same place below ~50 years apart where you can (just) see that they kept a pub (currently Coady's): I wonder if that's the same bus though? Must have shrunk in the wash. It was criminal some of the demolition that went on (and still does). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightswoodBear Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 5 hours ago, L'immortale Par said: Coadys in the 1980s used to put on strippers at lunchtime for the discerning Dunfermline gent. I've been in Coady's a couple of times. My wife's parents live 2 minutes away. We went in about 5 o'clock on a Saturday evening before we were meeting the in laws for dinner in the old Luigi's (before it moved round the corner and became shite). Everyone in there, including the bar staff appeared to be smashed off their tits and in full "here we fuckin go!" mode. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 25 minutes ago, KnightswoodBear said: I've been in Coady's a couple of times. My wife's parents live 2 minutes away. We went in about 5 o'clock on a Saturday evening before we were meeting the in laws for dinner in the old Luigi's (before it moved round the corner and became shite). Everyone in there, including the bar staff appeared to be smashed off their tits and in full "here we fuckin go!" mode. Last time I was in there I'd have been about 16, on a pub crawl for someone's 18th. Luigi's was a good place for birthday parties at high school age as you could order beer and wine with your dinner. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDuffman Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 19 hours ago, Dundee Hibernian said: Lovely short documentary, featuring Cumbernauld Town centre too. I recall Woolco there, building now demolished, and I think the Galbraiths Supermarket. But was it Galbraiths before or after Woolco? And were these meant to be penthouse flats in the new town centre, above Galbraiths? Edit to say: the brutalist style of that period tends to remind me of airports, even though most have been modernised 'away' from that architectural style. Were 2 different shops at opposite ends/sides of what is now the Antonine Centre. The penthouse flats were converted into small shops - remember going to a wee computer shop there. There's talk of converting them back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) Sticking with brutalism, I always liked this ugly brute in Poplar, East London. The flats were pretty cool inside. Maisonette type things. Big rooms and great views. The Marxist architect, Mr Erno Goldfinger, drew the ire of James Bond writer Ian Fleming, such was his dislike of Goldfinger's impact on the London skyline. Goldfinger was in turn raging at his name being used for a Bond villain. Probably even more raging now they've been turned into luxury flats. The Balfron Tower pops up in various films etc and look out for those flying passageways in the video to The Verve's This is Music. Edited February 25, 2020 by L'immortale Par 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Portobello Pier, designed by the same guy that did the first Tay rail bridge, surprise, surprise, this didn't like storms either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, KnightswoodBear said: I've been in Coady's a couple of times. My wife's parents live 2 minutes away. We went in about 5 o'clock on a Saturday evening before we were meeting the in laws for dinner in the old Luigi's (before it moved round the corner and became shite). Everyone in there, including the bar staff appeared to be smashed off their tits and in full "here we fuckin go!" mode. I've been in pubs like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, KnightswoodBear said: I've been in Coady's a couple of times. My wife's parents live 2 minutes away. We went in about 5 o'clock on a Saturday evening before we were meeting the in laws for dinner in the old Luigi's (before it moved round the corner and became shite). Everyone in there, including the bar staff appeared to be smashed off their tits and in full "here we fuckin go!" mode. My one and only time in the place, some jakeball came out of the toilets internal gyro clearly fucked as he stumbled and cleared two tables full of drinks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 9 hours ago, L'immortale Par said: Coadys in the 1980s used to put on strippers at lunchtime for the discerning Dunfermline gent. 3 hours ago, KnightswoodBear said: I've been in Coady's a couple of times. My wife's a stripper. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Zen Archer Esq. said: My one and only time in the place, some jakeball came out of the toilets internal gyro clearly fucked as he stumbled and cleared two tables full of drinks. Sorry about that Zen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_K_97 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I feel like this thread could have been started with Kilmarnock in mind. So much great Victorian architecture thoughtlessly pulled down for brutalist boxes that now need pulled down themselves. I get that by the time the 60s came around the amount of traffic had increased to the point where something needed to be done, but they could have done a lot better in trying to preserve more old stuff without having to build such a depressing one-way system. Take Duke Street, for example. A street that used to link the town cross to London Road, firstly shown in the early 20th Century and then in the late 60s/70s: Great sandstone buildings and a fine avenue that showed off the tower at the Palace Theatre. Torn down and replaced by the utterly soulless carbuncle that is the Burns Mall, named since Thomas Wilson's printing press on the left-hand side of the street was where The Kilmarnock Edition was first printed and published. Now it looks a bit like this: Street view What a shanner. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 On 24/02/2020 at 20:23, Dundee Hibernian said: Lovely short documentary, featuring Cumbernauld Town centre too. I recall Woolco there, building now demolished, and I think the Galbraiths Supermarket. But was it Galbraiths before or after Woolco? And were these meant to be penthouse flats in the new town centre, above Galbraiths I almost ended up staying in a flat above the Thistle centre in Stirling. It was an 8 student flat. I found a nicer place .. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arabdownunder Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 On 20/02/2020 at 18:54, jamamafegan said: Previous incarnation. Just called "the baths" . Note the individual changing cubicles around the edge 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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