AML67 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, Ginaro said: The LL wants a better west feeder and it's in the EoSFLs best interest to get the west into the pyramid as it undermines the SJFA's all-in approach. Since the PWG discussions broke down they're trying to quickly get something sorted for next season. Assuming the SJFA continue to go all-in meaning the West Region can't join, then the pyramid options are either create a WoSFL or join the SoSFL. So even if the South might not want to support a new west league, they might need to otherwise there would be an influx of new clubs to the SoSFL. An influx should be welcomed by the South in that eventuality and the SOSFL clearly supports placing the West Premier en masse to become the WOSFL to nullify the threat of their Licensed Clubs being either offered a potential place or expressing an interest in these new proposals - it’s not rocket science folks is it ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AML67 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 10 hours ago, Deeside Dynamo said: Whilst it probably is an attractive possibility surely there's nothing to be gained from moving to the West league when it remains at the same tier as the South league given that, if you are competitive, you will have a better chance of winning trophies, not to mention that you still have a pathway into the LL if your squad are good enough. However, in answer to the original question my feeling is, yes, the league should be pro-active in asking teams to join. I have a feeling that Bonnyton may well look at the WoSFL due to logistice so they, and the YM will have to be replaced. Rather than dilute the league it should be looking to expand as change is cominganf the junior clubs who are looking to join the pyramid are just the tip of the Iceberg. Some other clubs will be looking for an avenue so why not ask Craigmark, Annbank and others if they fancy it? If the South clubs don't appear to be wanting to embrace change and move with the times the SFA may take a very dim view of that and start to push it down another tier. Be careful what you wish for. You seem intent on suggesting the South should be lowered in terms of Tier level ! The EOSFL was at its lowest ebb before the Junior influx but I don't recall the same clamour to demote them. Who’s to say when you question ambition if South sides ( with player additions who are keen to test themselves ) couldn't compete Championship / District level Junior sides if they were part of any new WOSFL ! Oh and you can’t ask teams to join any set up , they need to apply - that’s how it works in the real world 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, AML67 said: An influx should be welcomed by the South in that eventuality and the SOSFL clearly supports placing the West Premier en masse to become the WOSFL to nullify the threat of their Licensed Clubs being either offered a potential place or expressing an interest in these new proposals - it’s not rocket science folks is it ? According to the breakdown of the clubs that left a note of interest through the wosfl.co.uk domain, a SoSFL club put one in. Its guessed at for obvious reasons that was Bonnyton Thistle. So you can see why the SoSFL were okay with the SJFA ran West Region getting in but have concerns over an idependent WoSFL. You also have to consider Caledonian Braves long term aligning with the WoSFL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AML67 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 45 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: According to the breakdown of the clubs that left a note of interest through the wosfl.co.uk domain, a SoSFL club put one in. Its guessed at for obvious reasons that was Bonnyton Thistle. So you can see why the SoSFL were okay with the SJFA ran West Region getting in but have concerns over an idependent WoSFL. You also have to consider Caledonian Braves long term aligning with the WoSFL. How can anyone be sure who has expressed an interest other than those who have publicly declared on Social Media ? I feel there may be many more before the deadline and perhaps if , once the final totals are known , they examine the possibility of regionalised conferences that there might be quite a few teams out there who will realise they may have missed the boat ! Exciting times potentially 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, AML67 said: An influx should be welcomed by the South in that eventuality and the SOSFL clearly supports placing the West Premier en masse to become the WOSFL to nullify the threat of their Licensed Clubs being either offered a potential place or expressing an interest in these new proposals - it’s not rocket science folks is it ? But unless the SJFA's all-in approach has changed, the West Region en masse cannot join at tier 6. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Pennel Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Be a laugh if all 63 clubs apply, though.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AML67 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 7 hours ago, Ginaro said: But unless the SJFA's all-in approach has changed, the West Region en masse cannot join at tier 6. If the Clubs actually decided to move what could the SJFA actually do to prevent this ? 4 hours ago, Black Pennel said: Be a laugh if all 63 clubs apply, though.... What’s the likelihood of that in all fairness ? Very few of the Premiership sides appear to have nailed their colours to either mast ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestman54 Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 12 hours ago, Ginaro said: The LL wants a better west feeder and it's in the EoSFLs best interest to get the west into the pyramid as it undermines the SJFA's all-in approach. Since the PWG discussions broke down they're trying to quickly get something sorted for next season. Assuming the SJFA continue to go all-in meaning the West Region can't join, then the pyramid options are either create a WoSFL or join the SoSFL. So even if the South might not want to support a new west league, they might need to otherwise there would be an influx of new clubs to the SoSFL. There is NO option for the SJFA to create the WOS league, that boat has sailed. This discussion has also been discussed in detail on the Junior forum particularly in relation to distances for current SOS clubs to travel if they allow others such as Cumnock or even Girvan in. Its likely that Bonnyton may leave the SOS for the new WOS league that the LL are currently seting up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 7 hours ago, AML67 said: If the Clubs actually decided to move what could the SJFA actually do to prevent this ? What’s the likelihood of that in all fairness ? Very few of the Premiership sides appear to have nailed their colours to either mast ! The SJFA can't do anything to prevent clubs moving. But due to their all-in approach they aren't going to negotiate for only the West Region to come in - either clubs move on their own or somehow there's a breakaway of the West Region. 4 hours ago, honestman54 said: There is NO option for the SJFA to create the WOS league, that boat has sailed. This discussion has also been discussed in detail on the Junior forum particularly in relation to distances for current SOS clubs to travel if they allow others such as Cumnock or even Girvan in. Its likely that Bonnyton may leave the SOS for the new WOS league that the LL are currently seting up. I'm not sure what point you're making. If Cumnock or Girvan applied but were rejected I think the SFA would take a dim view given one is a licensed club and the other would need to join a pyramid league to become licensed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestman54 Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Ginaro said: The SJFA can't do anything to prevent clubs moving. But due to their all-in approach they aren't going to negotiate for only the West Region to come in - either clubs move on their own or somehow there's a breakaway of the West Region. I'm not sure what point you're making. If Cumnock or Girvan applied but were rejected I think the SFA would take a dim view given one is a licensed club and the other would need to join a pyramid league to become licensed. SFA would have no say in who the LL accept or dont accept into the league. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 31 minutes ago, honestman54 said: SFA would have no say in who the LL accept or dont accept into the league. You've lost me. We were talking about clubs joining the South of Scotland League. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestman54 Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 30 minutes ago, Ginaro said: You've lost me. We were talking about clubs joining the South of Scotland League. You mentioned the SFA taking a dim view of such as Cumnock or Girvan being rejected. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Pennel Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Nope,....you've lost me too. What exactly is the point you're struggling to make ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 5 hours ago, honestman54 said: You mentioned the SFA taking a dim view of such as Cumnock or Girvan being rejected. Yes, if they applied to the SoSFL. There's only three options - West Region as a whole, WoSFL created, or clubs join the SoSFL. If the latter happened then I doubt the SoSFL would reject clubs from the west, as it would be the only route into the pyramid (in the past the SFA have told clubs they must join a pyramid league to get a licence). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locharinn Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Excellent and informative South League meeting last night with Rod Petrie and Ian Maxwell from the SFA. Be interesting the next couple of months!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 3 hours ago, locharinn said: Excellent and informative South League meeting last night with Rod Petrie and Ian Maxwell from the SFA. Be interesting the next couple of months!! What was the chat? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowenan Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Would be interesting to hear what they said. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AML67 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 5 more new licensed Clubs in the East taking the total to 15 with surely more to follow ! The new WOSFL sides will surely be able to follow suit quickly over the new year or 2 I’d suggest so my question is are there any candidates looking for licensing in the South , are those currently in place looking at being able to meet all the new criteria and are we going to fall further behind again in comparison to other Tier 6 Leagues ? This is a serious issue and yet another stick to batter the South with as they look to downgrade the non proactive Leagues and welcome new aspiring teams ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterUnderTheBed Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 How many teams currently in the SoS league are licensed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, MonsterUnderTheBed said: How many teams currently in the SoS league are licensed? 4 = Threave Rovers, Wigtown & Bladnoch, Newton Stewart and St Cuthbert Wanderers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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