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7 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Sweeney on Good Morning Scotland. Seems reasonable to me if MacKay didn't instantly fess up.

 

I think Mr Swinney is going to be disappointed by his worst critics. They're tweeting furiously  to the surprise of nobody.  

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15 hours ago, ICTJohnboy said:

Good to see Channel 4 News leading with news of ongoing Syrian war crimes, as hospitals, including  a maternity unit in N.W. Syria being heavily bombed. The spread of conoavirus is their next news item.

Derek and the SNP are relegated to 3rd place which strikes me as much more balanced news coverage - much better than the usual shit the dear old BBC are coming up with.

3rd story on the ten o'clock news on the BBC news last night.

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14 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said:

 

Someone once told me that whatever the circumstances, whatever the sexuality, outright denial should always be first choice. 

Unless that is, you're actually caught in the act, and even then you'll probably think of something to say.

Shaggy always said to say... "it wasn't me"

But she caught me on the counter (It wasn't me)
Saw me bangin' on the sofa (It wasn't me)
I even had her in the shower (It wasn't me)
She even caught me on camera (It wasn't me)

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1 minute ago, JT1867 said:

3rd story on the ten o'clock news on the BBC news last night.

 

It was their screaming headline on the 6pm news last night.

I guess these kind of stories no longer have the same lasting impact as might have been the case in the past.

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John Mason silent today about Derek MacKay.

He was all over the papers and Twitter about Goodwillie but absolutely silent about Salmond and Mackay.



Mason is a Sleekit Wee ratbag

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1 hour ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said:

If MacKay hasn't broken any laws he should be left alone. But he should resign as an MSP as he has displayed a dreadful lack of decorum and judgement. 

Meh I’m not so sure. I don’t think WATTOO had broken any laws when explaining his nightclub behaviour but got ridiculed for it. 
 

John Lambies Doos (I think) gets a bit of a hard time on here for his over appreciation of the female form and one of the Inverness boys (I think) got mercilessly mocked for going solo to nightclubs. 

Correct that he has done nothing illegal but it’s definitely OFTW behaviour that surpasses anything that we see on here and treat as fair game. Just because he’s an (ex) Minister of the Government and a (now suspended) prominent member of the SNP does not, to me, mean he should be left alone.
 

So far, with the odd outlier, I think the discussion on here has been fairly measured and if anyone here had ‘fessed to similar there’d be screeds of posts. If anything, his prominence with the SNP seems to have the ardent supporters doing their best to limit the damage. 
 

Newspapers love the salacious. I looked at The National yesterday and they barely had 300 words on it. 
 

I’d say he is fair game. 

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29 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said:

 

It was their screaming headline on the 6pm news last night.

I guess these kind of stories no longer have the same lasting impact as might have been the case in the past.

Philip Schofield has jumped into top spot, so McKay can breath a sigh of relief. 

 

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2 minutes ago, alta-pete said:

Meh I’m not so sure. I don’t think WATTOO had broken any laws when explaining his nightclub behaviour but got ridiculed for it. 
 

John Lambies Doos (I think) gets a bit of a hard time on here for his over appreciation of the female form and one of the Inverness boys (I think) got mercilessly mocked for going solo to nightclubs. 

Correct that he has done nothing illegal but it’s definitely OFTW behaviour that surpasses anything that we see on here and treat as fair game. Just because he’s an (ex) Minister of the Government and a (now suspended) prominent member of the SNP does not, to me, mean he should be left alone.
 

So far, with the odd outlier, I think the discussion on here has been fairly measured and if anyone here had ‘fessed to similar there’d be screeds of posts. If anything, his prominence with the SNP seems to have the ardent supporters doing their best to limit the damage. 
 

Newspapers love the salacious. I looked at The National yesterday and they barely had 300 words on it. 
 

I’d say he is fair game. 

If he has resigned and hasn't broken any laws he should be left to rot. But the chances of him being left alone are probably less odds than Liverpool are to win the league.

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Just now, Bob Mahelp said:

Philip Schofield has jumped into top spot, so McKay can breath a sigh of relief. 

 

Coming out as being gay after 20-odd years of marriage in no way trumps grooming a 16 year old boy. 

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1 minute ago, alta-pete said:

Coming out as being gay after 20-odd years of marriage in no way trumps grooming a 16 year old boy. 

 For an establishment figure like Schofield I think it does.

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It would be more of a shock if Schofield came out as left-wing.

As to Mackay... jeezo. What is it with horny middle-aged men and power? If only he were royalty, he might have gotten away with it... Sturgeon right to sack him.

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2 hours ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said:

If MacKay hasn't broken any laws he should be left alone. But he should resign as an MSP as he has displayed a dreadful lack of decorum and judgement. 

14/15 months of salary left this parliamentary term, that's like £75k of salary left and 6% of that matched into his pension pot. I'm not totally sure but I think he may be entitled to more cash if he tries to stand as an independent, that's the case at Westminster anyway that you get money as a kind of severance pay thing.

It's not right at all that he can continue as a representative but for someone who isn't going to be flooded with employment offers in the near future, he's never going to take that decision with his life fucked and there should be a method of taking that out of his hands.

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22 minutes ago, alta-pete said:

Coming out as being gay after 20-odd years of marriage in no way trumps grooming a 16 year old boy. 

You seem very outraged by all this.

The best way to handle your outrage, shock and disgust is to find a football forum, and post at least once every 5 minutes about how outraged and disgusted you are. 

That'll teach the basturd. 

 

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18 hours ago, YassinMoutaouakil said:

:lol:

I guess the previous and possibly next First Minister being exposed as massive fucking dangers doesn't merit any further investigation into the structure they were allowed to operate in then. I'm not talking about prescribing the SNP or anything but to dismiss stuff like this because it's not "unique to them" is a bit head-in-the -sand-y.

What would any organisation's structure possibly have to do with any individual sending private facebook or text messages?

If there was any indication that any of this behaviour was known about or covered up then absolutely, until then, it's just a bit daft.

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10 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said:

You seem very outraged by all this.

The best way to handle your outrage, shock and disgust is to find a football forum, and post at least once every 5 minutes about how outraged and disgusted you are. 

That'll teach the basturd. 

 

Sitting on a train chief. It passes the time. 

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35 minutes ago, Crùbag said:

It would be more of a shock if Schofield came out as left-wing.

As to Mackay... jeezo. What is it with horny middle-aged men and power? If only he were royalty, he might have gotten away with it... Sturgeon right to sack him.

But the media reports say that Mackay resigned.

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Derek McKay appears to be a very troubled and troubling politician whose now-revealed actions should at the least debar him from holding future political office.

But any moral guardians attempting to contaminate the body politic of the SNP on the back of recent events will fail, and fail miserably. The very attempt is an indication of the desperation of the SNP haters here and elsewhere.
Not really, appears hes well known for predatory behaviour (banned from.drinking at SNP events). We have someone in the paper today whose account of him homing in on him is almost a replica of a post further up the page from someone who experienced the same. That type of behaviour doesnt occur in a vacuum. People turn a blind eye to it.

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