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34 minutes ago, cdisaaccie said:

Strowman thing not a spoiler for WM, a spoiler for Smackdown tonight maybe as it's supposed to be arranged on tonight's show.

Nah wasn't meaning that. Was meaning Mania results and any other surprises.

I'm just asking that if folk do post them here then please also post a warning.

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Thinking of how shit WWE have been in creating stars in recent years does not bode well for future Manias. They've been so abysmal awful at it. Drew will surely win the belt but he'll be chucked in to a shit feud where he's given incredibly bad lines that will kill his character and be on the same level as everyone else before soon.

If they don't mean it then WWE are doing a great job of sabotaging talent, which is mental.

Their old fall back of 'legends' is fast running out. This is surely the last Mania for Taker and Goldberg. Rock and Austin will never wrestle again. Edge won't do another Mania. HHH, Lesnar and Cena have some left but their only value now is to put folk over, but WWE both don't build folk sufficiently and don't follow up on a big victory.

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41 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

Thinking of how shit WWE have been in creating stars in recent years does not bode well for future Manias. They've been so abysmal awful at it. Drew will surely win the belt but he'll be chucked in to a shit feud where he's given incredibly bad lines that will kill his character and be on the same level as everyone else before soon.

If they don't mean it then WWE are doing a great job of sabotaging talent, which is mental.

Their old fall back of 'legends' is fast running out. This is surely the last Mania for Taker and Goldberg. Rock and Austin will never wrestle again. Edge won't do another Mania. HHH, Lesnar and Cena have some left but their only value now is to put folk over, but WWE both don't build folk sufficiently and don't follow up on a big victory.

Think that's a very negative slant. Edge has signed a 3 year deal has he not? People have been saying this will be the last Mania for Taker for about 10 year - And he's certainly not bowing out in front of an empty arena, far too much money to be made.

Cena can be used as an attraction, as can Lesnar & HHH.

WWE were in a much, much worse position than this in the mid-90s after Hogan left and eventually the likes of Michaels & Hart broke through. It'll happen.

The WWE hierarchy don't care if we like the product or not. We're no longer their target market. They're back to targeting kids with the odd tidbit for the older fans that grasp on.

Becky Lynch, Seth Rollins, Drew McIntyre, Roman Reigns, Charlotte Flair, Rusev, Bray Wyatt, Shayna Baszler are all under 40 so easily have 10 year ahead of them. Will they be as big as our heroes? No, and they do need a breakout Cena/Rock/Austin/Hogan but they'll continue coasting unfortunately.

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37 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said:

Think that's a very negative slant. Edge has signed a 3 year deal has he not? People have been saying this will be the last Mania for Taker for about 10 year - And he's certainly not bowing out in front of an empty arena, far too much money to be made.

Cena can be used as an attraction, as can Lesnar & HHH.

WWE were in a much, much worse position than this in the mid-90s after Hogan left and eventually the likes of Michaels & Hart broke through. It'll happen.

The WWE hierarchy don't care if we like the product or not. We're no longer their target market. They're back to targeting kids with the odd tidbit for the older fans that grasp on.

Becky Lynch, Seth Rollins, Drew McIntyre, Roman Reigns, Charlotte Flair, Rusev, Bray Wyatt, Shayna Baszler are all under 40 so easily have 10 year ahead of them. Will they be as big as our heroes? No, and they do need a breakout Cena/Rock/Austin/Hogan but they'll continue coasting unfortunately.

Yeah agree that it is negative. But it is wrong?

Edge has already shown that he won't do a full time schedule (and rightly so), so who is here to put over?

Agree that Cena, HHH and Lesnar can put folk over, but look at how WWE treat the current stars. A guy can beat all 3 of them but if he's then given a shite script that he has to regurgitate exactly he's fucked. So that's pretty much everyone until Vince dies.

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18 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

Why are they still having a pre-show? 

They are?!  Jesus fucking Christ...

They're utterly tedious at the best of times, where is the need?  How long is each night penned for?  2 hour pre-show, 4 hour show format?

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30 minutes ago, forameus said:

They are?!  Jesus fucking Christ...

They're utterly tedious at the best of times, where is the need?  How long is each night penned for?  2 hour pre-show, 4 hour show format?

I think it's just chatting now, but wouldn't be surprised to see a match on it. The battle royales are out though.

1 hour preshow then 3 main on each night.

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There's not a chance I'll be watching it live, when previously I'd have been going down to watch it with a mate.  I'll try and get through most of Saturday's show on the Sunday, then hopefully avoid enough spoilers to watch through the Sunday show the next day.  I've yet to see much from any of the closed door shows, so not really sure what to expect.

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