ayrmad Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I notice that the issue of “why is Germany able to do significantly more testing than us” and “why is Germany controlling this better than us” is being raised by journalists but not being answered. There have been far too many stooges and their questions shown on news programmes, it's a bit bullshit, 642 deaths out in the community down south as of 27th March, not heard a peep about it from journalists, too many of them are lackeys and the rest will just be punted to the back of the queue. Deaths tested positive for covid 19 only accounted for 59% of deaths with it on death certificate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 50 minutes ago, hk blues said: Unfortunately, the pittance they do pay is significant This is precisely why a change is needed. I'm sick of this ridiculous argument that you need mega rich people so that Governments can then take a small percentage in tax which amounts to a huge contribution in actual terms, you then get the argument that you can't piss them off or they'd pay even less. No, I'm sorry, You can't have one or two rich individuals dictating policy to Governments and tens of millions of citizens but unfortunately that's EXACTLY what we have. When you have a situation where individuals from the world of Sport and Entertainment are actually personally funding Hospitals and Medical Equipment out of their petty cash, then that really should have alarm bells ringing. TIME FOR CHANGE !!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: VT doing his still a c**t impression. It's not an impression. Edited April 8, 2020 by Jacksgranda sllepnig 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 What's the big deal about whether or not China fiddled with the figures anyway. It makes absolutely no difference in the grand scheme of things, and given we could see how utterly crippled Italy was for about 3 weeks before it hit here and still spent that time apparently doing absolutely f**k all, its not even an acceptable 'but if they'd told the truth we'd have been better prepared' excuse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 There are obviously a myriad of issues with the Chinese government. The complete disregard for human rights, the treatment of the Uigher’s, the behaviour towards autonomous territories such as Taiwan etc etc. However it is clear for all to see that China have been extremely effective at controlling the virus. The proper lockdown, the testing on entry to any building, the swift closure of schools, tracing every case, restricting the ability of travel in and out of Wuhan. Couple that with the fact it’s technologically light years ahead of the UK and that pretty much every restaurant and shop already had a delivery service prior to corona virus and it’s easy to see why they were able to control effectively. Now contrast that to the Western chuckle brothers. Cheltenham going ahead, handshakes with Corona Virus patients, the ‘keep calm and carry on,’ of the Brits and the ‘land of the free,’ attitude of the Americans, advising people to stay in whilst still leaving schools open, changing of strategies at the drop of a whim, having months of advanced warnings and using that time to ensure people got enough final nights out, ambiguous stay at home messages. The Chinese will have no doubt under-estimated their death toll slightly, but their approach to this has clearly been night and day ahead of the west, and it’s therefore no surprise they have controlled it much better, no matter what the gammons in the media try and portray. Britain is a world superpower etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 It's no an impression.Granny beat you to that!![emoji4] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, renton said: It includes non hospital, community cases from nursing homes. As I understand it, we had 220 deaths upto 5th April with a positive for covid, as of the same date we actually had 354 deaths with Covid on the certificate, a difference of 134 over and above subsequent Dailly totals, by my arithmetic that makes it 500 not including deaths in the community after 5th April. Very happy to be wrong, don't think I am though. Edited April 8, 2020 by ayrmad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 42 minutes ago, ayrmad said: Yep, it's a big deal but someone is dying in the UK every few minutes because of numerous decisions him and his cronies did or didn't take. 35 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: Both the Mayor of London and the Health Secretary have made it clear this morning restrictions will not be relaxed next week it's how they word the extension that will be key. Khan now saying the latest info he has is no peak expected for another 7-10 days despite earlier suggestions it may come over Easter. It's all part of the can kicking tactic to spoon feed the lockdown to make it psychologically more palatable. Bringing in lockdown any earlier than it was wouldn't have worked, imo, so I don't think anybody else making the decisions would have made a great deal of difference. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest_Fifer Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Both the Mayor of London and the Health Secretary have made it clear this morning restrictions will not be relaxed next week it's how they word the extension that will be key. Khan now saying the latest info he has is no peak expected for another 7-10 days despite earlier suggestions it may come over Easter. It's all part of the can kicking tactic to spoon feed the lockdown to make it psychologically more palatable. I can't see any let up on the lockdown for the rest of this month to be honest. It's way too early to say where the numbers are going. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 One interesting thing in the Reuters article, and in the paper on school closures in the Lancet, is that the response in the UK and Western countries wa modelled on an influenza pandemic rather than a coronavirus pandemic. While there are similarities there are differences too and the countries in Asia that dealt with SARS appear to have had more success perhaps due to their experience of that. I read an account of a visitor to Taiwan around the time that the virus was still mainly held in China and the measures were clear there - masks, social distancing, sanitiser etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Granny beat you to that!! Can't be emphasised enough, imo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, virginton said: It’s cute to see you and MixuFixit desperately try to rebrand as ‘serious posters’ rather than ‘inconsequential, zero-pointer no-marks’. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Coronavirus: low antibody levels raise questions about reinfection risk Scientists in Shanghai say some recovered patients show no signs of the neutralising proteins Early-stage findings could have implications for vaccine development and herd immunity, they say Source:SCMP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 33 minutes ago, welshbairn said: An arrogant sense of superiority and a fondness for understatement is what sets Britain apart from the rest of the world. Aye, and we had a fùcking empire on the back of it. We gave it away too quick, we'd still be in charge and could've limited this plague to the coolies. What, what! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, jagfox99 said: Tbf there’s only about 20 folk who go to the churches here every week, they could easily be spaced out 2 metres apart, or even a whole row apart! I reckon the queue for supermarkets are busier than folk going to church. Just don’t let them eat wafers or share cups! 51 minutes ago, WATTOO said: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, jagfox99 said: Immediate reaction was "bet he's a Tory and a Brexiteer". Second reaction was "the Tories have become a lot less subtle about trying to kill off the pensioners". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 55 minutes ago, WATTOO said: Interestingly we're now starting to record an upsurge in figures, however by most accounts the Hospitals have been rather quiet over the past few weeks, as such I'd like to know how many deaths were actually recorded during February and start of March when the wards were much busier but COVID-19 was not something which we were testing. My insinuation being that this has most probably been hitting us in clusters since February. My Dad died in early Feb from symptoms that eerily mirror Covid. I truly believe this has been in the UK since Jan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Definitely signs of a waning here on PnB. Stay strong folks - we'll get through the tedious times (see the last half dozen pages) and back to posting pics of scantily clad nurses before you know it... 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Anyone who believes the China death figures probably still believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny. As soon as this started over there they should have shut their borders and only allowed Chinese nationalists back in or foreign nationals out,providing they spent 2 weeks in isolation. The fact people were allowed to leave and spread this disease all over the world is negligence 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, alta-pete said: Definitely signs of a waning here on PnB. Stay strong folks - we'll get through the tedious times (see the last half dozen pages) and back to posting pics of scantily clad nurses before you know it... Could you do that as a logarithmic graph, ap, so that we can check the scope of that curve? I think it's leveling off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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