Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[superbigal]

Fair play Nicola going on good morning Britain.
Probably the toughest gig out there facing Piers for now.

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

Also from Airdrie.

Hed just mis-manage the crisis allow it to die and buy irelands response call it NHS united and claim its the same thing.

[Benjamin_Nevis]

7 hours ago, H Wragg said:

Hillwalking in May.

It's the hope that kills you. Nah in all seriousness i know that's not happening. Main concern is getting money back for my accommodation. This will last until late summer at least. 

[Dunning1874]

The Times reporting that the antibody tests, which the government said would be ready in weeks, would allow home testing and were going to let everyone go back to a degree of normality immediately if they were positive, have been rejected for use. Apparently they're actually only effective in showing the antibody if you've been seriously ill with it, making them useless for identifying it among a significant proportion of the population. A more accurate test which would allow widescale testing as the government intended is still months away at least.

Along with ordering new prototype versions of ventilators from companies with no experience of making them while blanking established manufacturers, why is this government so insistent on chasing magic pie in the sky solutions to issues rather than just getting testing in place as soon as possible like every other country?

[Marshmallo]

7 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said:

The Times reporting that the antibody tests, which the government said would be ready in weeks, would allow home testing and were going to let everyone go back to a degree of normality immediately if they were positive, have been rejected for use. Apparently they're actually only effective in showing the antibody if you've been seriously ill with it, making them useless for identifying it among a significant proportion of the population. A more accurate test which would allow widescale testing as the government intended is still months away at least.

Along with ordering new prototype versions of ventilators from companies with no experience of making them while blanking established manufacturers, why is this government so insistent on chasing magic pie in the sky solutions to issues rather than just getting testing in place as soon as possible like every other country?

I blame the scum drinking cans of cider in Pollok Park spoiling it for the rest of us!

[dirty dingus]

6 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said:

The Times reporting that the antibody tests, which the government said would be ready in weeks, would allow home testing and were going to let everyone go back to a degree of normality immediately if they were positive, have been rejected for use. Apparently they're actually only effective in showing the antibody if you've been seriously ill with it, making them useless for identifying it among a significant proportion of the population. A more accurate test which would allow widescale testing as the government intended is still months away at least.

Along with ordering new prototype versions of ventilators from companies with no experience of making them while blanking established manufacturers, why is this government so insistent on chasing magic pie in the sky solutions to issues rather than just getting testing in place as soon as possible like every other country?

The Great British  Brexit mindset. Rather shoot themselves in the foot than play second fiddle to some Johnny Foreigner. Plus the Queen said better days will return, so it's all good.

[ayrmad]

7 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said:

The Times reporting that the antibody tests, which the government said would be ready in weeks, would allow home testing and were going to let everyone go back to a degree of normality immediately if they were positive, have been rejected for use. Apparently they're actually only effective in showing the antibody if you've been seriously ill with it, making them useless for identifying it among a significant proportion of the population. A more accurate test which would allow widescale testing as the government intended is still months away at least.

Along with ordering new prototype versions of ventilators from companies with no experience of making them while blanking established manufacturers, why is this government so insistent on chasing magic pie in the sky solutions to issues rather than just getting testing in place as soon as possible like every other country?

It's all in their plan, they knew these issues would arise. 

The more things go wrong the more we'll over promise and under deliver. 

[Suspect Device]

Germany still seem to be doing a lot better than us. Their curve is flattening.

 

Ours isn't.

[Bairnardo]

Germany still seem to be doing a lot better than us. Their curve is flattening.

 
Ours isn't.

Why are we comparing trends on different scales? Doesnt help IMO

[Suspect Device]

2 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

4 minutes ago, Suspect Device said:

Germany still seem to be doing a lot better than us. Their curve is flattening.

 
Ours isn't.

Why are we comparing trends on different scales? Doesnt help IMO

 

Probably because Germany have more cases overall. Of course they are doing far more tests than we are so will have far higher numbers.

Surely it's the trend rather than the scale that matters? Germany's looks like it's flattening and ours isn't. 

I copied them from here.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

[Marshmallo]

7 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

9 minutes ago, Suspect Device said:

Germany still seem to be doing a lot better than us. Their curve is flattening.

 
Ours isn't.

Why are we comparing trends on different scales? Doesnt help IMO

[craigkillie]

Those two plots look basically identical to me.

[throbber]

3 minutes ago, craigkillie said:

Those two plots look basically identical to me.

They aren’t identical the UK one is pointing up and the Germany one is flattening at the end.

[Bairnardo]

Those two plots look basically identical to me.

They wouldn't if you put them on the same scale. Ours would look significantly less steep

[Melanius Mullarkey]

Should standardise the y axis on all future graphs to the Fox News scale IMO.

[Alert Mongoose]

Ahh curves.

 

[throbber]

Dalkeith country park this morning:

 

[Bairnardo]

 
Probably because Germany have more cases overall. Of course they are doing far more tests than we are so will have far higher numbers.
Surely it's the trend rather than the scale that matters? Germany's looks like it's flattening and ours isn't. 
I copied them from here.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
 

Sure if you are only looking to that wee bit at the end it's a fair enough comparison. If you are looking to compare rate of rise of the two countries, and even eventually rate of drop, you have to have them on the same scale, otherwise theres no point in the comparison. You would be aswell just looking at each on it's own.

Too early to call the Germany one a proper flattening but it does look like maybe turning.

[craigkillie]

They aren’t identical the UK one is pointing up and the Germany one is flattening at the end.

People who want to see patterns will find them - you are talking about one or two observations fluctuating a tiny amount on two graphs on a different scale.

That's not how statistics works.

[Todd_is_God]

8 hours ago, H Wragg said:

Hillwalking in May.

We don't do Hillwalking in May