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11 minutes ago, Snafu said:

Part of the problem was that when the pandemic struck a good number of people lost their jobs or had them put on hold, many of them from Eastern Europe, Poles and Latvians. Many decided especially after Brexit that this was the final straw and that they would be better off heading home and working there. Now we are faced with a workforce shortage and yet the unemployment levels don't add up, they should be much higher. The Government are still trying to figure out where have all these workers have gone, vanished into thin air, they've gone. The rules are strict on those who are still here, they had to prove their immigration status regardless of how long they have lived in this country. EU membership regardless.

So you end up with hard working skilled people who have been here for over two decades having to prove themselves and if they can't they are out even if their children are born here (they can stay). All to please a small minority of voters.

If they want British jobs for British people they are going to have to invest much much more in the young people of this country, get the education system sorted for example stop messing with school exams. If not University or Collage then apprenticeships as a choice, get companies on board. Investment in people regardless of their background.

You've also got a load of experienced people in their late 50s or 60s who wondered whether they really wanted to go back to work again after being furloughed, and gave it a no.

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32 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

Simple, straightforward question.

Why the hysterical reaction?

It's a loaded question that is personal and got nothing to do with you, me or anyone else.

 

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If you want to keep things private and personal, P&B is hardly the place to post your ailments on.
Doubling down is not the best approach here.
Even the poster called you out on the fact it's got f**k all to do with you why he tested himself.
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16 hours ago, Snafu said:

Part of the problem was that when the pandemic struck a good number of people lost their jobs or had them put on hold, many of them from Eastern Europe, Poles and Latvians. Many decided especially after Brexit that this was the final straw and that they would be better off heading home and working there. Now we are faced with a workforce shortage and yet the unemployment levels don't add up, they should be much higher. The Government are still trying to figure out where have all these workers have gone, vanished into thin air, they've gone. The rules are strict on those who are still here, they had to prove their immigration status regardless of how long they have lived in this country. EU membership regardless.

So you end up with hard working skilled people who have been here for over two decades having to prove themselves and if they can't they are out even if their children are born here (they can stay). All to please a small minority of voters.

If they want British jobs for British people they are going to have to invest much much more in the young people of this country, get the education system sorted for example stop messing with school exams. If not University or Collage then apprenticeships as a choice, get companies on board. Investment in people regardless of their background.

We already know that somewhere around 250,000 people over the age of 50 have simply decided to chuck it and either downsize and live off their savings or go self-employed. Either way, they are permanently out of the employment workforce so that accounts for some of the people who have not returned. That's a big chunk right there on top of the EU workers who have left.

The sad fact is that there has always been British jobs for British workers. There's never been a time when there wasn't. The question is more about the nature of those jobs, the money they pay and whether British workers want to take them on. The reason we had such high immigration was directly because the resounding answer to that question from Brits was "do we f**k". EU workers weren't replacing Brits. They were filling the gap. And now those workers have gone. Possibly forever.

Someone is going to have to figure out how to replace them or we could be facing serious long term difficulties as a nation.

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14 hours ago, Loonytoons said:

Doubling down is not the best approach here.
Even the poster called you out on the fact it's got f**k all to do with you why he tested himself.

We need a national ban on people using the phrase "doubling down".

Anyone up for a government petition? 

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We need a national ban on people using the phrase "doubling down".
Anyone up for a government petition? 
I would sign up for that. Horrible terminology that I have inadvertently picked up on P&B.

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Just over two weeks ago, was at the Barrowlands for a re-scheduled Del Amitri gig. The Tuesday after the gig, started to feel ‘something coming on’. Aches down my neck into my back, started feeling like I was in for a cold. Just had the feeling though, so took a Covid test - positive. As Tuesday wore on, felt just like a normal mild cold. On the Tuesday night though, in bed, felt like I was frozen cold and shivering. Wednesday morning, felt like shite. Aching limbs, sore head, sweating. Then it got into my lungs. From the Wednesday for about four days, I genuinely had difficulty breathing. Was gasping for breath at times, coughing and wheezing. Never for one minute did I feel like I’d need hospital treatment, but it was genuinely scary - not a normal cold. On the Sunday morning, woke up about 5am drenched in sweat, absolutely soaking. Must have been my body finally getting rid. Have fully recovered since last Sunday, but in ‘week two’ of it, was still absolutely physically drained. Couldn’t walk the length of myself.

Two doors down from me, our neighbours have it. Two doors to the right, our neighbours have it. Right across the road, our neighbours have it. The figures of ‘one in twenty’ Scots must be the very, very small tip of the iceberg. 
 

I was glad I am not a smoker, and keep relatively fit. The ‘lungs thing’ wasn’t fun. Not at all. On the upside, Del Amitri were fcuking ace. 😀

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4 hours ago, Todd_is_God said:

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I really don’t like how wearing face coverings is being pushed as a “small price to pay” for “normality”.

Wearing face coverings should never be considered normal. 

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Not been in this thread for months but you can see the big risk now is the ongoing mental health issues folk have, after two years of this carry on. In Stirling this afternoon, and a guy in his mid 20’s, looked fairly fit/ physically healthy enough yet he was stoating up the road towards the shopping centre with full mask on and literally full-on “March 2020” and bouncing away from other pedestrians. 

Each to their own, maybe the fella had some vulnerable parent/ partner but after two years and knowing what we know about transmission and masks etc, I can only think this sudden resurrection of COVID in the news (for a version of a springtime flu) has caused a load of folk to suddenly think it’s back to the “end of the world”
 

This is the price we are seeing now, along with socially isolated people/ children struggling or reluctant to return to normal society.

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12 hours ago, The Master said:

I really don’t like how wearing face coverings is being pushed as a “small price to pay” for “normality”.

Wearing face coverings should never be considered normal. 

Also this:

Leitch said that face coverings work at a population level.

Is a statement that real world data shows is simply untrue.

A fair chunk of the population are aware of this by now, so health officials really aren't doing themselves any favours by continuing to die on that particular hill.

It's worth also considering the context of this statement. This is a man who has just had Covid and is (for all intents and purposes) fine, yet has a completely different outlook to the likes of JVT. Why?

There was also a very recent BA.4/5 wave that burnt out in both South Africa and Portugal in a few weeks (as this here likely will too) yet you would be forgiven for believing that this was brand new.

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Jason, just do us a favour and f**k off with this pseudo-scientific shite. 😂

I honestly cannot believe he's still trying to peddle this utter garbage. How much evidence needs to be produced to show that he is dead wrong - both on the claim about masks working at a population level and that cloth masks will do the trick? We tried all this for 2 fucking years and it made no statistical difference to what happened in mask-free England. In fact, we've consistently had it worse up here.

Honestly. What on earth is he doing with this nonsense?

Asked about the effectiveness of cotton masks against the virus, Leitch said that face coverings work at a population level.

He said: “Risk is quite difficult to explain on an individual level compared to a population.

“Face coverings at a population level work, they work. So if you can face cover a whole train, that works.

“If you’ve got one person in the corner of a train, you’re right, that’s probably not having that huge an effect on the numbers for Scotland.

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STV News at Six telling us as many as 1 in 10 just had it in this latest 'wave', which has now peaked and there's pretty much nothing to worry about...

It's been nothing to worry about since last summer, like, but still.

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14 hours ago, Todd_is_God said:

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What I find staggering, no I really shouldn't be surprised now with MSM, they aren't on our side....is how little coverage news about removing our rights and freedoms without our consent gets now a days. They (the SG) slid this one in while everyone was distracted by announcements around Indyref 2 as if no one would give it much attention.

We are still under another 6 months (Sept) of these temporary laws right now.

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