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I'm going to save everyone the trouble of this back and forth with both sides daring the other to ask the question they're taking too much pleasure in not asking.

19 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

What we should definitely do instead is spunk precious resources mollycoddling absolute wasters rather than just excluding them.

They don't want to be there. Wrapping them in cotton wool won't change them.

Alright, what would you do?

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31 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said:

I'm going to save everyone the trouble of this back and forth with both sides daring the other to ask the question they're taking too much pleasure in not asking.

Alright, what would you do?

f**k them. Exclude them. Let them lie in the bed they make.

These wasters aren't interested in school, and no amount of resources chucked at them to be "inclusive" will change that.

Focus the resources on those that want to be there.

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15 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

f**k them. Exclude them. Let them lie in the bed they make.

These wasters aren't interested in school, and no amount of resources chucked at them to be "inclusive" will change that.

Focus the resources on those that want to be there.

As big ideas go...that's small.

You have no clue what certain kids are going through. What they have faced. What they have overcome.

My mum gave a talk at a special school last week and one girl, aged nine, was not allowed to go as she was feral. Raised with dogs, not potty trained (by NINE) barely able to speak. 

But yeah...f**k them and exclude them. That will work out well in the long term. Just reject folk from society as children. That will work a treat in the long term. 

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10 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

As big ideas go...that's small.

You have no clue what certain kids are going through. What they have faced. What they have overcome.

My mum gave a talk at a special school last week and one girl, aged nine, was not allowed to go as she was feral. Raised with dogs, not potty trained (by NINE) barely able to speak. 

But yeah...f**k them and exclude them. That will work out well in the long term. Just reject folk from society as children. That will work a treat in the long term. 

Special schools are a different kettle of fish.

But what long-term difference is an inclusion officer going to make in a mainstream school? Wasters are gonna waste whether wee Janice has a HIG chat with them once a week or not.

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