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Ignoring the fact the guidance he's quoting, whilst the case now, was not the rules in place at the time of this incident, why is JL getting involved in defending NS at all? It's surely not his job.

Regardless of what anyone else has or has not done, she did break the law, and would be best placed just acknowledging that, apologising, paying the fine, and move on.

When you've spent so long keeping the law in place (calling BJ reckless for lifting the mask mandate in the process), calling out others who broke the law, claiming they were absolutely vital in stopping the spread, and asking others to continue to wear them now the mandate has been lifted, then you cannot expect to make a mistake like this and have no-one call you out on it. As the FM the expectation on her is higher than on almost anyone else, and NS should be aware of that.

This attempt at pretending nothing happened really isn't a good look for either NS or JL.

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Just now, TheScarf said:

Also, masks don’t protect you, as demonstrated by the case numbers in Scotland.

This is the thing that winds me up the most about those taking to social media to protest the removal of the mask rule.

 

England was mask free from mid July until the end of November last year and has been mask free again since late January.
 

In that time, there’s been no discernible difference to infection rates. England has been higher for periods and Scotland higher for other periods. 

 

Now, I know there’s more factors in play there such as testing levels, vaccination and prior immunity levels, but even still, people seem to think that the virus just goes away if everyone masks and that everyone catches it and dies if no one masks. In reality, face coverings are way down the list of measures that actually make a difference. 

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I ditched my mask about a month ago. I was questioned for the first time on Saturday about not wearing it, they asked if I was exempt as if not they would give me one. I was thinking, the amount of people I've got to know in the last 2 years that I haven't seen their whole face or vice versa. My child's teacher for example. Thank f**k its all binned now. 

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55 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

The pantomime Sage group really cannot forgive Devi Sridhar for "going to the other side", can they?

 

"...haven't publicised it..." she says........publicising it on Twitter. 😆

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15 minutes ago, Honest Saints Fan said:

I ditched my mask about a month ago. I was questioned for the first time on Saturday about not wearing it, they asked if I was exempt as if not they would give me one. I was thinking, the amount of people I've got to know in the last 2 years that I haven't seen their whole face or vice versa. My child's teacher for example. Thank f**k its all binned now. 

Managed to get through about a year without being challenged about wearing one.

Just a single incident when a B&Q person at the door welcoming people said to me that masks were in a box at the side.

I said No thanks and that was the extent of it.

It's been a pretty hateful episode from start to finish but hopefully we'll never have to go through it again.

Make no mistake though. This nonsense has caused splits within families, friendship groups and working environments. The damage done there might take some time to heal.

And it's worth bearing in mind that there is not a single example anywhere in the world where the introduction of masks could be reasonably said to have reduced infections beyond doubt.

I still feel anger over the blatant misuse of science by people who were only ever interested in whoring their shitty books but mostly I'm just relieved it's over and want to move on. It's been a real eye opener to see how easily some of the freedoms we take for granted can be swiped away, how this can be hugely supported and encouraged by the electorate for the illusion of safety and how quickly public conversations became utterly toxic as regards anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers for having the sheer audacity to want to decide for themselves what they put in and around their own bodies (whether we agree with them or not). This tactic of "those people over there are the reason your life is shite" appears to be as widely used as ever by those in charge and accepted by the public. We appear to have learned nothing from history on that score. It's pretty depressing when you think about it.

Anyway, f**k it. It's over. Time to move on.

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All it requires is an apology for not abiding by the rules (rather than an excuse) and payment of the fixed penalty notice for not complying with the law.

I don’t think there’s any chance at all a fixed penalty notice will be forthcoming. One fine handed out in the final six months in 2021 according to this:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/only-one-face-mask-fine-26091067

Clearly not something being enforced (which I’m fine with). No sympathy at all for Sturgeon given she’s been dragging this on for months longer than necessary, but it’s quite clear the whole thing is being amplified to give false equivalence with Johnson.

An apology is clearly needed though, regardless of how long she didn’t have her mask on. That we haven’t already had one sums up her attitude to Covid rules since about summer 2020.
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38 minutes ago, Honest Saints Fan said:

the amount of people I've got to know in the last 2 years that I haven't seen their whole face or vice versa. My child's teacher for example. Thank f**k its all binned now. 

Was she as hot as you imagined?

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2 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

My daughters teach has frequently not worn a mask at school, which is ideal as she is absolutely fucking stunning!

You know the rule.

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22 minutes ago, Donathan said:

Anyone been on a shop/bus/train this morning and can estimate mask percentages?

Yes, albeit in London.

Less than 10% i'd say (and most of those appeared to be tourists).

I reckon it will (even in a few weeks) be higher in Scotland though, due to masks being much more of a political symbol.

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Anyone been on a shop/bus/train this morning and can estimate mask percentages?

Train south from Aberdeen to Edinburgh. About 5%.
Tram to airport probably less than that.
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