scottsdad Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 How is P&B mascot Deepti doing these days? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Apparently today is “Long COVID awareness day”, which makes this article perfectly timed. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/mar/15/long-covid-symptoms-flu-cold tl;dr - “long COVID” does exist, but it’s essentially no different to any other post-viral fatigue. So it should stop being called “long COVID” because it suggests there’s something different or special about it, when there’s currently no medical evidence this is the case. It’s a very fair and balanced take, I think. I doubt anyone (sensible) would deny that post-viral fatigue exists, and given the prevalence of COVID it’s not surprising if more people than before have/had it. But if the symptoms are no different to any other post-viral fatigue, it doesn’t make sense to give it its own name. Indeed, doing so has the effect of trivialising the long-term effects of other viruses. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 On 20/01/2024 at 01:26, Shannon said: I can't believe she was seen as a credible scientist during COVID years and she would still have us in lockdown or wearing £1000 respirators / facemasks and only socialising outside. She definitely needs some mental health help it seems from what I see posted on here / Twitter. This response sums up what an unhinged nutjob she is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 8 hours ago, The Master said: Apparently today is “Long COVID awareness day”, which makes this article perfectly timed. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/mar/15/long-covid-symptoms-flu-cold tl;dr - “long COVID” does exist, but it’s essentially no different to any other post-viral fatigue. So it should stop being called “long COVID” because it suggests there’s something different or special about it, when there’s currently no medical evidence this is the case. It’s a very fair and balanced take, I think. I doubt anyone (sensible) would deny that post-viral fatigue exists, and given the prevalence of COVID it’s not surprising if more people than before have/had it. But if the symptoms are no different to any other post-viral fatigue, it doesn’t make sense to give it its own name. Indeed, doing so has the effect of trivialising the long-term effects of other viruses. Not being horrible but for some individuals it's an attention-seeking malingerers charter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 12 hours ago, The Master said: Apparently today is “Long COVID awareness day”, which makes this article perfectly timed. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/mar/15/long-covid-symptoms-flu-cold tl;dr - “long COVID” does exist, but it’s essentially no different to any other post-viral fatigue. So it should stop being called “long COVID” because it suggests there’s something different or special about it, when there’s currently no medical evidence this is the case. It’s a very fair and balanced take, I think. I doubt anyone (sensible) would deny that post-viral fatigue exists, and given the prevalence of COVID it’s not surprising if more people than before have/had it. But if the symptoms are no different to any other post-viral fatigue, it doesn’t make sense to give it its own name. Indeed, doing so has the effect of trivialising the long-term effects of other viruses. Spot on on post-viral fatigue existing, plenty posters on here don't believe it happens with Covid though. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandmac Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 4 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Not being horrible but for some individuals it's an attention-seeking malingerers charter. Of all the guys from my work that have the long COVID none of them are the usual suspects,it's all guys that were rarely ,if ever,off sick 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 4 hours ago, Loonytoons said: Spot on on post-viral fatigue existing, plenty posters on here don't believe it happens with Covid though. Lolwut? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 On 14/03/2024 at 12:44, Todd_is_God said: Pupils could simply stop being dicks rather than taking thinly stretched resources away from other pupils on top of their learning already being disrupted by wasters who won’t behave. Excellent idea. Someone should tell them on Monday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 50 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Excellent idea. Someone should tell them on Monday. Agreed. Then exclude them if they keep being dicks instead of spending money they don't have on pandering to them to be "inclusive" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 6 hours ago, Todd_is_God said: Lolwut? Are you querying whether post-viral fatigue exists, Covid doesn't lead to some people having it or posters on here don't believe that Covid can cause it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Loonytoons said: Are you querying whether post-viral fatigue exists, Covid doesn't lead to some people having it or posters on here don't believe that Covid can cause it? I'm challenging your statement that "plenty posters on here don't believe happens with Covid" - I'd be very interested in your workings to arrive at that conclusion. Edited March 16 by Todd_is_God 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: I'm challenging your statement that "plenty posters on here don't believe happens with Covid" - I'd be very interested in your workings to arrive at that conclusion. Ah, my error in how that was written. It's an opinion, I should have stated "I get the feeling that plenty of poster..." Apologies for not making that clearer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 34 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Agreed. Then exclude them if they keep being dicks instead of spending money they don't have on pandering to them to be "inclusive" Great thanks. How long should the exclusions last? What should happen when that time period has elapsed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 15 minutes ago, Loonytoons said: Ah, my error in how that was written. It's an opinion, I should have stated "I get the feeling that plenty of poster..." Apologies for not making that clearer. My memory of it is that "long covid" was being pointed out as being Post Viral Fatigue from the get go. The only reason PVF after Covid was (and still is) being given a specific name was because Covid was framed as something new and unlike anything else, long after it became clear it was just another in the long line of respiratory viruses. Which, tbf, the article appears to highlight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 6 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: My memory of it is that "long covid" was being pointed out as being Post Viral Fatigue from the get go. The only reason PVF after Covid was (and still is) being given a specific name was because Covid was framed as something new and unlike anything else, long after it became clear it was just another in the long line of respiratory viruses. Which, tbf, the article appears to highlight. Not disagreeing with any of that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) 3 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said: Great thanks. How long should the exclusions last? What should happen when that time period has elapsed? He clearly hasn't been in a school in a long time. Edited March 16 by DeeTillEhDeh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 25 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: He clearly hasn't been in a school in a long time. Don't spoil it. I've been telling everyone I'll have all the answers to the central dilemma of their professional lives next week, thanks to a Hamilton fan on the internet. You're not trying to tell me he's a clueless imbecile are you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 7 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said: Don't spoil it. I've been telling everyone I'll have all the answers to the central dilemma of their professional lives next week, thanks to a Hamilton fan on the internet. You're not trying to tell me he's a clueless imbecile are you? What we should definitely do instead is spunk precious resources mollycoddling absolute wasters rather than just excluding them. They don't want to be there. Wrapping them in cotton wool won't change them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 12 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: What we should definitely do instead is spunk precious resources mollycoddling absolute wasters rather than just excluding them. What do you mean by 'excluding them'? Exclusions already happen. Your proposal doesn't really represent that much of a breakthrough I'm afraid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 I'm going to save everyone the trouble of this back and forth with both sides daring the other to ask the question they're taking too much pleasure in not asking. 19 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: What we should definitely do instead is spunk precious resources mollycoddling absolute wasters rather than just excluding them. They don't want to be there. Wrapping them in cotton wool won't change them. Alright, what would you do? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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