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7 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

Happened to me as a younger man. Phoned my boss to tell him I was sick and he basically told me to get myself in there or not bother coming back. 

Being young (18 or so) and stupid I did as I was told. Had I been older and more mature I would have told him to shove it and that he was acting against all kinds of employment law.

Somerfield, the employer of champions. 

I think you are being a bit naive if you thought that most employers wouldn’t have expected you to come in whilst you had a cold in pre-Covid times.

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Aye if you have the flu you know about it.  Basically if you can get up and go about your day as you usually would, you don't have it.

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Folk go in to EVERY workplace with the cold. Even the ones with full sick pay.

I know this because like everyone else in the country, I dont have an sickness record the length of my arm and my work pre covid has never been decimated with winter absence.

This is what would happen if everyone went off with the cold.

The flu isnt worth mentioning because if you have flu, you are yearning for a time where you can actually move from your bed. Not contemplating a shift of work.

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1 hour ago, scottsdad said:

Happened to me as a younger man. Phoned my boss to tell him I was sick and he basically told me to get myself in there or not bother coming back. 

Being young (18 or so) and stupid I did as I was told. Had I been older and more mature I would have told him to shove it and that he was acting against all kinds of employment law.

Somerfield, the employer of champions. 

What did your wife tell you to do?

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1 hour ago, scottsdad said:

Yes indeed, this has passed around us all. 

My wife had an appointment on Wednesday and needed to take a test before being allowed to go to that, so she took the test and it was negative. Makes me think it more likely to be a cold than anything else. 

My wife has just recovered from a seriously bad respiratory infection (old fashioned flu).

After eliminating Covid her GP prescribed antibiotics and proceeded to tell her that she has never seen so many similar cases for years. Non Covid flu is making a return big time!

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1 hour ago, scottsdad said:

Happened to me as a younger man. Phoned my boss to tell him I was sick and he basically told me to get myself in there or not bother coming back. 

Being young (18 or so) and stupid I did as I was told. Had I been older and more mature I would have told him to shove it and that he was acting against all kinds of employment law.

Somerfield, the employer of champions. 

So you would take time off whenever you have a cold?

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1 minute ago, Gaz said:

So you would take time off whenever you have a cold?

No, not at all. 

I had a really bad cold - not a flu - and given my job was to work on the checkouts handling food and dealing with the public, I thought it best not to come in. 

It was a real stinker of a cold that made me miserable, but I went in and did my 3 and three quarter hour shift (so they didn't have to pay for a break), sitting at the till blowing my nose, sneezing and serving folk. 

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8 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

My wife has just recovered from a seriously bad respiratory infection (old fashioned flu).

After eliminating Covid her GP prescribed antibiotics and proceeded to tell her that she has never seen so many similar cases for years. Non Covid flu is making a return big time!

Your GP prescribed antibiotics after diagnosing the flu and reported unprecedented cases compared in recent years? 

 

 

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-59988292
50,000 NHS workers off work due to Covid.  
How many people work in the NHS in Scotland?  Google suggests that 160,000 is the answer, nearly 1 in 3 off sick at the moment.
Surely the extrapolation of 50k from 7k a day is nonsense as a lot of those folk will be counted sick on multiple days (most likely 7 min if covid)
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1 hour ago, oaksoft said:

Thinking about this argument of Leitch a wee bit more.

He says "It doesn't matter why people are in hospital. If they have covid the impact is the same anyway".

That's the same logic as saying "it doesn't matter why people die. The end result is the same anyway".

And yet we spend vast sums of money on trying to prevent death BECAUSE we make the distinction, believing it to be vitally important.

If we're introducing restrictions into people's lives it is vitally important that we know the exact nature and scale of the problem those restrictions are trying to help resolve. Or at least fucking TRY and get that information.

Oh and Jason, if you could stop the patronising "you don't understand how healthcare works" shite that would be just great. We understand enough to detect your particular brand of bullshit thanks.

To me the key thing about this arguement is whether or not it is the virus or a poorly funded/managed NHS that has businesses still closed or working under restricted conditions and the rest of facing increased use of vaccine passports to go about our day to day business? 

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My wife has just recovered from a seriously bad respiratory infection (old fashioned flu).
After eliminating Covid her GP prescribed antibiotics and proceeded to tell her that she has never seen so many similar cases for years. Non Covid flu is making a return big time!
Some doc you have prescribing antibiotics for the flu !!!

ETA I see I was beaten to the punch just highlights how unlikely this actually happened.
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1 minute ago, Billy Jean King said:
21 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:
My wife has just recovered from a seriously bad respiratory infection (old fashioned flu).
After eliminating Covid her GP prescribed antibiotics and proceeded to tell her that she has never seen so many similar cases for years. Non Covid flu is making a return big time!

Some doc you have prescribing antibiotics for the flu !!!

Yeh, was just thinking that? Antibiotics are for bacterial infections not viral illness surely?

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8 minutes ago, ddfg said:

To me the key thing about this arguement is whether or not it is the virus or a poorly funded/managed NHS that has businesses still closed or working under restricted conditions and the rest of facing increased use of vaccine passports to go about our day to day business? 

Absolutely and my suspicion is that this is why they are not being fully transparent with us.

I might be wrong but we just cannot trust any of them right now.

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2 hours ago, scottsdad said:

I am choked with the cold today. 

Not planning to take a test - you might think that makes me reckless. But as a counter to that I'll say that I am already not going to the gym today, nor visiting my parents tomorrow. You know, like any normal person would do in the pre-Covid days. I just don't feel up to the gym, and I don't want to pass this cold on to my parents; my dad especially is in poor health. 

This is the thing - before Covid came along people would modify their behaviour. Very few employers would have insisted in the past that workers come in whilst they have the cold or flu (though I did work for one such man once). People do less because they feel a bit grotty. 

The difference now is testing and regulations telling people specifically how to react to catching a very mild virus. I am acting like an adult and making my own decisions; I don't need the government to tell me how to react to a cold. I've been doing this for over 40 years. 

Actually I think it was and remains extremely common for employers to pressure staff into working if they have a cold.

I certainly remember employers pressuring me on the phone to turn up and if I felt worse THEN I could go back home again knowing that once I turned up for a shift that was the end of it.

We definitely need to change that mindset but it's a very common thing.

Flu is a different matter.

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The NHS is in absolute need of complete reform. They need to strip away layers of management and shite, invest massively in service provision and infrastructure and become a lot less wasteful. Vaccines being poured down the drain by clinicians because of management decisions last year is a very key indicator of this. 
 

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Its almost like DPB has a track record of spouting utter shite.
"My wife and I nipped to Mars today for lunch....then in the afternoon I played The Old Course and shot a 59 including 2 holes in one while Mrs DPB collected her honorary doctorate at the Uni....."

His posts read like something straight out of N Korean state TV news.
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