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[Billy Jean King]

I think that’s probably correct.
The SNP contains a lot of social conservatives but they turn a blind eye to the more authoritarian and big state aspects of the SNP because their main aim is independence. It’s actually quite understandable and you can see it articulated on here regularly. The SNP under Salmond was much more centrist than the present version. As an outsider looking in, that’s the impression I get.
Could you imagine Salmond abandoning oil and gas, going no nuclear, increasing taxes on the middle classes as just a few examples.
Unfortunately, he has lost almost all his support for obvious reasons.

Has the Politics Thread been closed ?

[Todd_is_God]

3 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

 

The booster was only first rolled out in mid-September. 9 weeks ago!

Even with lab tests, there is surely far too small a sample size to declare this with any degree of certainty.

I downloaded a document from the government website a few months back which had boxes to record the date of 4 covid doses on it.

The absolute bullshit and goalpost shifting throughout it would not surprise me one bit if it was always planned to be a 4 dose vaccine, but they knew they would never get buy in from the public if they outright said that.

[Billy Jean King]

I agree, but is it a crime?

Offences under the DPA and Communications Act I would think. It's similar to the wee choobs who post party details on SM and hundreds of random kids turn up at a party that was intended to be a private function.

[anotherchance]

2 hours ago, oaksoft said:

The reason for all this is that we are ALL, absolutely without exception, selfish in our own way.

For the most part we are not bothered by most things which don't affect us.

That seems to be the way humans are wired up.

The issue for me is the hypocrisy of people who have a go at the selfishness of others, not realising they are just the same in their own way.

Covid has really brought out that unpleasant side of many people.

We see them on the forum. The "f**k the Tories" type who then want to introduce vaccine passports and blame unvaccinated people for our problems. They are everywhere.

Correct.

They use fairly light differences of opinion to condescend, misinterpret and to virtue signal.

Today’s example: Anybody who suggests there’s a link between going to football and positive mental health doesn’t care about the NHS or 150k people who’ve died.

I honestly think I’m generally pretty left wing with my views, so it infuriates me that those who purport to be of a similar mindset are so arrogant in their approach. The same people then scratch their heads and are amazed that Brexit and Tory governments happened, and that calling someone a thick c**t probably isn’t going to encourage them to get vaccinated.

[Todd_is_God]

 

Burnham in face turn shocker

[Dawson Park Boy]

35 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

1 hour ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

I think that’s probably correct.
The SNP contains a lot of social conservatives but they turn a blind eye to the more authoritarian and big state aspects of the SNP because their main aim is independence. It’s actually quite understandable and you can see it articulated on here regularly. The SNP under Salmond was much more centrist than the present version. As an outsider looking in, that’s the impression I get.
Could you imagine Salmond abandoning oil and gas, going no nuclear, increasing taxes on the middle classes as just a few examples.
Unfortunately, he has lost almost all his support for obvious reasons.

Has the Politics Thread been closed ?

Sorry.

Just responding but if this Covid business isn’t about politics, I don’t know what is.

 

[Snafu]

2 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

Sorry.

Just responding but if this Covid business isn’t about politics, I don’t know what is.

 

Aye its all about point scoring over the opposition now, power, money and within the Tory inner circle maximum cheese, wine and getting your leg over.

[NotThePars]

 
Burnham in face turn shocker

The guy could kill a wean on live TV and still get cheered in Manchester. He’s Bret Hart in Canada at this stage and fair play despite not being a fan he’s did the work.

[oaksoft]

1 hour ago, Billy Jean King said:

2 hours ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

I think that’s probably correct.
The SNP contains a lot of social conservatives but they turn a blind eye to the more authoritarian and big state aspects of the SNP because their main aim is independence. It’s actually quite understandable and you can see it articulated on here regularly. The SNP under Salmond was much more centrist than the present version. As an outsider looking in, that’s the impression I get.
Could you imagine Salmond abandoning oil and gas, going no nuclear, increasing taxes on the middle classes as just a few examples.
Unfortunately, he has lost almost all his support for obvious reasons.

Has the Politics Thread been closed ?

No but last time I looked, they were discussing covid and moonhowlers on it.

[oaksoft]

2 hours ago, Todd_is_God said:

I agree, but is it a crime?

We'll find out soon enough I suppose when they charge him.

[Gnash]

1 hour ago, djchapsticks said:

 

The booster was only first rolled out in mid-September. 9 weeks ago!

Even with lab tests, there is surely far too small a sample size to declare this with any degree of certainty.

It's 14 weeks since mid September.

[Ross.]

1 hour ago, anotherchance said:

Correct.

They use fairly light differences of opinion to condescend, misinterpret and to virtue signal.

Today’s example: Anybody who suggests there’s a link between going to football and positive mental health doesn’t care about the NHS or 150k people who’ve died.

I honestly think I’m generally pretty left wing with my views, so it infuriates me that those who purport to be of a similar mindset are so arrogant in their approach. The same people then scratch their heads and are amazed that Brexit and Tory governments happened, and that calling someone a thick c**t probably isn’t going to encourage them to get vaccinated.

A big part of the SNP’s current problem, for me at least, is that other than independence they seem overly concerned with “middle Scotland”, which means working class interests, which football primarily is, are generally ignored at best, or in the case of the current issue, used to set an example.

Absilutely nailed on that any restrictions that are in place will be lifted a week or two before the rugby internationals start going early next year.

[Abdul_Latif]

14 minutes ago, Ross. said:

Absilutely nailed on that any restrictions that are in place will be lifted a week or two before the rugby internationals start going early next year.

As much as that may be true, the big Edinburgh v Glasgow rugby games are also crowd free during Christmas / New Year as is the Dundee v Fife ice hockey.

I don’t believe it’s a witch hunt against football alone, it’s simply against anything regular folk take interest in or enjoyment from to try and make a point about reckless Tories.

Gloriously that tired line seems to have blown right up in their faces.

[O_Kahn]

2 hours ago, anotherchance said:

Correct.

They use fairly light differences of opinion to condescend, misinterpret and to virtue signal.

Today’s example: Anybody who suggests there’s a link between going to football and positive mental health doesn’t care about the NHS or 150k people who’ve died.

I honestly think I’m generally pretty left wing with my views, so it infuriates me that those who purport to be of a similar mindset are so arrogant in their approach. The same people then scratch their heads and are amazed that Brexit and Tory governments happened, and that calling someone a thick c**t probably isn’t going to encourage them to get vaccinated.

The one aspect of this that really gets on my tits is the suggestion that those who think the crowd restrictions are too strong a step are somehow happy for the NHS and the elderly to struggle.  Complete horseshit. 

I'll always be a backer of the NHS, but we make compromises on policy all the time.  I'm sure if we doubled spending on the NHS we could improve all sorts of outcomes, but that doesn't mean we do it because we recognise the tax hike (or reductions elsewhere) would cause comparable hardship.

 

 

Edited December 23, 2021 by O_Kahn

[djchapsticks]

1 hour ago, Gnash said:

It's 14 weeks since mid September.

Indeed it is, I'm being daft.

It's still a very quick turn around to conclusively state that.

[sailorcowden]

Shan 69?

"Hurry up, Harry come on.... We're going down in lockdown"

[Todd_is_God]

Given the alleged importance of London hospital data, this thread is interesting.

 

[Blue Brazil Forever]

4 hours ago, Snafu said:

I was in the ASDA earlier on today and it was packed.

Inverness city center mobbed as well, I heard.

What variant?

 

Like the last time I reported, Glenrothes was heaving again today. What social distancing?

[Rugster]

I’d have no issue taking a booster every six months, or every year, provided they get all and I mean ALL restrictions in the fucking sea,  I’d imagine a majority would. If they keep putting these protections  restrictions in place and also keep pushing more and more boosters then they’re just taking the utter pish. 
 

The first minister is an avid reader, as many who follow her on Twitter will know. It seems she’s not very good at reading the room, though. 

[pozbaird]

2 minutes ago, Blue Brazil Forever said:

Like the last time I reported, Glenrothes was heaving again today. What social distancing?

Very busy in Cumbernauld today. Traffic queuing to get into the big town centre Tesco and Asda causing tailbacks on the surrounding roads, and if anyone is familiar with the road network in Cumbernauld, it is usually brilliant. Free flowing and uncumbered by traffic lights and pedestrians. Antonine Centre buzzing. Atmosphere in it was actually very positive and upbeat. Social distancing my arse. Folk simply getting on with life best they can.

GIRFUY Holyrood.