craigkillie Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Anecdotally, there does seem to be a much bigger delay in getting PCR results now. I'm part of the ONS survey which means that someone comes once a month, asks a few questions about your potential exposure - how many people you've been in close contact with, how often you've been socialising etc - and then takes a swab for a PCR test. They came out and did the test on Monday and I didn't get my result until today. Obviously because mine is routine I don't need to isolate, but it would be incredibly frustrating to be stuck in the house for four days waiting for a result to come back if you were a close contact or whatever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Vojáček Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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resk Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, scottsdad said: I have been going to the gym for just a few weeks - folk wear masks walking into the place, then take them off whilst in the gym. Inside the gym nobody wears one at all, then stick them on while leaving. Inside the gym is the most "normal" feeling place for me, despite all the screens that are up. People just acting normal. Yes, I might catch Covid with my despicable behaviour, and so might everyone else, but in all honesty what difference would it make sticking on a ratty old bit of cloth when going the few metres between machines? Aye, although I said "most", nowadays it's probably a minority of people in my gym who do the whole "mask on/off shuffle" thing too. Anyway, without getting cast into the role of a Scottish Government stooge, sometimes laws by their very nature throw up slightly strange situations but that's not all of a sudden become a thing since covid started! It doesn't bother me if folk are walking around the gym without a mask on, but on the other hand I also don't get enraged if someone is wearing their mask in situations where I wouldn't bother. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Less than was published. Clue is the work "probable".Just heard the "probable" column explained by the Grampian NHS woman as folk admitted with respiratory type illness who have tested positive but who have also been diagnosed with other respiratory type illness (the example she gave was pneumonia) and therefore they are unsure if the primary cause was Covid or not. In that particular scenario that seems fair enough to class them as probable as the alternative would seem to be with Covid rather than because of Covid on the basis that Covid probably lead to the pneumonia rather than vice versa.If it's exactly as she is describing it then the probable column is probably leaning more to the due to Covid column than with Covid so it would seem fair enough to categorize those separately due to the uncertainty. I assume there is probably no way of deciphering what came 1st by the time the symptoms are severe enough to require hospitalization. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Yer tea's out, John. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ginaro said: I'm no expert but unless something dramatic happens then surely we are past the peak... Definitely not impossible given there is no doubt now that London peaked on cases around Christmas Eve but we still need about 5 days of data with no lag and no holiday anomaly to be sure that's a real trend. What makes me a wee bit wary on agreeing with you is how much larger the new cases number is for Jan 2nd compared to Boxing Day exactly a week earlier. Edited January 7, 2022 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairn88 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 https://twitter.com/HugoGye/status/1479485883254513670?s=20 Sturge and Drakeford absolutely soiling themselves over the Omnishan variant is a poetic way to hopefully mark the end of the pandemic, as we enter endemicity. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 That reply is as confusing as it is wild. Pointing out NS might have made a mistake now makes you autistic (and that's before we even get to the fact he thinks that is an ok slur to use). I'm not sure that rabid Nationalists like Jim understand that if they ever want to win an independence referendum, they actually need to convince people to get on board rather than swan around with some sort of air of superiority. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 16 minutes ago, Michael W said: Yer tea's out, John. John is my go-to guy for what the Land of Fear is thinking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 That reply is as confusing as it is wild. Pointing out NS might have made a mistake now makes you autistic (and that's before we even get to the fact he thinks that is an ok slur to use). I'm not sure that rabid Nationalists like Jim understand that if they ever want to win an independence referendum, they actually need to convince people to get on board rather than swan around with some sort of air of superiority.His Twitter bio says it all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) RE: The hospital admission figures, what rationale was given for picking a timeframe of just 2 days for Greater Glasgow & Clyde? Both of which were weekend days (and one was New Year's day)? Interrogating the data my arse. They've used just 2 health boards, used different timescales for both, and picked a time of year where incidental admissions are surely amongst their lowest? Absolute charlatans. Edited January 7, 2022 by Todd_is_God 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Oh, David... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 6 hours ago, Todd_is_God said: Nail. Head. Hit. Wow. The right wing agenda is yet more blatantly evident from some of our main players. It would be so much better if people didn't receive full sick pay, wouldn't it? That would make for a much better society. -6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: RE: The hospital admission figures, what rationale was given for picking a timeframe of just 2 days for Greater Glasgow & Clyde? Both of which were weekend days (and one was New Year's day)? Interrogating the data my arse. They've used just 2 health boards, used different timescales for both, and picked a time of year where incidental admissions are surely amongst their lowest? Absolute charlatans. They should be publishing this info weekly, for every health board as standard at the moment, as part of the grown up conversation we were promised. Edited January 7, 2022 by Abdul_Latif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Agree with the above, surely that's not the only data they are going to publish? Surely we are getting something more comprehensive for the whole of Scotland? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Wow. The right wing agenda is yet more blatantly evident from some of our main players. It would be so much better if people didn't receive full sick pay, wouldn't it? That would make for a much better society. Everyone should have full sick pay. However the fact that Long Covid tends to overwhemingly strike university educated women in white collar jobs suggests it's a mental condition rather than a physical one. Civil servants will have mainly been working from home yet are on the list. Workers in constant close contact with the public such as supermarket workers and care workers seem to avoid it somehow. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherchance Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Wow. The right wing agenda is yet more blatantly evident from some of our main players. It would be so much better if people didn't receive full sick pay, wouldn't it? That would make for a much better society. The point surely was that some of these sorts of middle class professions likely have the benefit of full pay when off sick, whereas many working class or lower paid jobs will be forced to rely on statutory sick pay, which is a relative pittance. Therefore it makes sense that the teachers and civil servants are more likely to mewl about long Covid or whatever because they aren’t in the same position as the minimum wage guy, who just needs to get on with it regardless. That’s a traditionally left wing train of thought, surely? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 45 minutes ago, bairn88 said: the Omnishan variant Up there with Alshit Fergusscum. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Honest Saints Fan said: Agree with the above, surely that's not the only data they are going to publish? Surely we are getting something more comprehensive for the whole of Scotland? Considering the last time they promised to report this they did so for one day I really wouldn't hold your breath. They've cherrypicked a set of figures that they can use to justify easing restrictions on the 17th (which will stop people moaning) whilst also managing to not show that their reaction was a complete overreaction. They know that if they announce on Tuesday that they are rolling back restrictions on the 17th no-one will give them too hard a time about this bit of (blatant) spin. Edited January 7, 2022 by Todd_is_God 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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