Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Meldrew]

30 minutes ago, Elixir said:

It's like our 'scientists' just can't possibly believe what is coming out of South Africa. As if their science (real world data, not shan models) isn't good enough. It's verging on imperial snobbery.

Then you look at our vaccine/booster coverage, considerable prior infection, and *comfortably declining* hospital admissions, and this bed shitting simply defies belief.

 

posting shite from guys who work at the spectator says everything about you and your point of view.

 

[CALDERON]

Interesting thread.

[Lisa Cuddy]

1 minute ago, sparky88 said:

Isn't the understanding that they only break isolation to to work?

Not from instruction I’ve been given personally - we also need to eat and buy things and can’t arrange deliveries to our homes when we’re working - but quite honestly work and shopping is about all I do anyway!

[BigDoddyKane]

What was the story with all the extra emergency hospital beds they had that they closed down as werent needed, would it not have made sense to keep some of those going the whole time?

[djchapsticks]

6 minutes ago, Meldrew said:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/17/1065083105/u-s-omicron-wave-could-be-the-worst-yet-projections-find-and-its-coming-fast

 

 

 

Mate, surely you didn't just offer that up as a retort to my point.  

That's modelling, not real world data. There are literally dozens of reports that say it COULD be the worst variant.

My point is that there's nothing that says it IS the worst. All actual real world data published so far has agreed that in actuality, the variant is less severe.

Fucking hell. How is that hard to grasp?

[oaksoft]

1 hour ago, Rugster said:

Just put the twat on ignore. 

I don't normally do that but I have now.

[djchapsticks]

1 minute ago, oaksoft said:

I don't normally do that but I have now.

Aye, I've never stuck anycunt on ignore in my entire time on this site. And I've seen some right roasters in all the years on here.

This tool is likely going to be the very first.

[Rugster]

2 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

I don't normally do that but I have now.

Needs must. I only have two on ignore. 

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

As for the churches being protected by law and can’t close, im pretty sure football is my religion. 

[Todd_is_God]

9 minutes ago, CALDERON said:

Interesting thread.

I'm getting from that that modellers are asked only to produce bad scenarios, ignoring good outcomes no matter how likely they are.

Then these models are showcased as "the science"

That's wild.

[Big Fifer]

10 minutes ago, CALDERON said:

Interesting thread.

I came on to post this. It's worth reading. To me this reads that SAGE do not model a "good case" scenario under any circumstances because that shows a situation where ministers don't need to make decisions/restrictions wouldn't be needed. Incredible if I'm interpreting that correctly. 

[djchapsticks]

10 minutes ago, CALDERON said:

Interesting thread.

That exchange below this tweet is exceptionally telling.

Especially this part and the lack of reply:

[Snafu]

We should be seeing an upsurge in hospital cases by now with this new killer variant, why is this not happening?

[anotherchance]

5 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

That exchange below this tweet is exceptionally telling.

Especially this part and the lack of reply:

One of the issues is that people will scoff because we’re “agreeing with Fraser Nelson” rather than arguing against the very important salient point being made here.

[Todd_is_God]

2 minutes ago, Snafu said:

We should be seeing an upsurge in hospital cases by now with this new killer variant, why is this not happening?

Because it's a shanner

[Honest_Man#1]

20 minutes ago, CALDERON said:

Interesting thread.

This is insane. They only produce ‘bad scenario’ models where action would be needed, and ignore anything where we can continue on as normal/remove all restrictions as no decision would be needed regardless of how likely that actually is. Then the bad models are portrayed as the likely scenarios by the government/media.

[Elixir]

23 minutes ago, pozbaird said:

Shite troll alias figures for the week are in.

 

Exponential growth. Hopefully peaks and turns soon...

 

22 minutes ago, Meldrew said:

posting shite from guys who work at the spectator says everything about you and your point of view.

It says everything about how much of a gormless clown you are that you go for this mewling angle. Their figures are *quite literally* lifted from the data coming from South Africa.

The Spectator have absolutely humiliated SAGE by showing the 'actual' hospital data below even the 'best case scenario' since the summer reopening. This isn't something that can be tampered with by political motivation. It is simple fact.

 

9 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

I'm getting from that that modellers are asked only to produce bad scenarios, ignoring good outcomes no matter how likely they are.

Then these models are showcased as "the science"

That's wild.

So we can safely ignore their utter gubbins 'scenarios that aren't predictions'. Great stuff!

 

8 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

That exchange below this tweet is exceptionally telling.

Especially this part and the lack of reply:

I think you'll find this is pure right-wing, libertarian, populist propaganda!!111

[Guest Bob Mahelp]

8 minutes ago, anotherchance said:

One of the issues is that people will scoff because we’re “agreeing with Fraser Nelson” rather than arguing against the very important salient point being made here.

Another salient point. 

Governments worldwide are introducing further restrictions of various degrees in response to the new variant. 

Do they all use the same modelling ? 

[Dons_1988]

The Dutch have shat it. 

[pozbaird]

11 minutes ago, Snafu said:

We should be seeing an upsurge in hospital cases by now with this new killer variant, why is this not happening?

With what I’ve just read, we’ll be seeing an upsurge in riots around the Rotterdam and Amsterdam areas.