Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[pozbaird]

42 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

 

Eventually, Alpha, Delta and Omnicron will blow themselves out but, as sure as night follows day a new variant of Covid will come along and we’ll be back to square one.

 

 

Scottish Government warn ‘new tighter restrictions may be required’ as new deadly frankincense and myrrh variants are dominant in Bethlehem.

 

[Left Back]

21 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

Like throwing darts blindfolded - at some point you might hit a treble 20 - just not very likely.

The real issue with models, so I've read, isn't the models themselves but the assumptions that are made about human behaviour.

A model is only as good as the data you put in. Shite data will give a shite result.

Do these people constructing the models have any clue what normal human behaviour is?

Look at the hero Neil Fergusson.  Happily carrying on a relationship with a married woman with her husbands consent I believe.  Fair enough they’re all consenting adults but it isn’t behaviour most people would consider normal.

Continuing to carry on said affair during lockdown when the law at the time expressly forbid it.  Yep, perfectly normal again.

These people are living in a different world to most of us.

[oaksoft]

49 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

Have been taking a few steps back regarding this ‘pandemic’ and trying to look at it through a new perspective.

Eventually, Alpha, Delta and Omnicron will blow themselves out but, as sure as night follows day a new variant of Covid will come along and we’ll be back to square one.

Maybe a better policy would be to ditch all restrictions, masks, etc. and just let it rip and put all our resources into the hospital sector.

We could construct military style field hospitals (Louisa Jordan)to house the badly affected, equipped with ventilators, drugs, everything necessary to support Covid patients where they would be kept well away from the regular hospitals. As time goes on, with more and more people fully vaccinated the need for these facilities should decrease and rather than  continually pushing the endgame further away down the road, we confront it full on. Okay, there will be deaths, as there are at present, but who’s to say that this may not be a bad plan. Already, I’ve heard Carl Heneghan and Karl Sikora suggesting that we move along these lines.

To continue as at present is madness as the public are increasingly just ignoring the ‘rules’ and realising that life is a lot more than mere survival but the joyous interaction of one human spirit with another and that being controlled by politicians and scientists is no way to live.

Im not bothered about myself as I’ve had a wonderful life but I am bothered about the young and middle aged who are being denied the fulfilment and happiness that should be there for them but is being wrongly withheld from them for no good reason.

 

I think we should have done this from day 1.

I've certainly advocated herd immunity approach since May last year.

It's not that I don't care about people dying.

It's that I've never seen any sensible alternative way out.

I think we're kidding ourselves on that we can hold back the tide.

Of course we now have vaccines but we lucked out on that without a shadow of a doubt.

[Detournement]

The other night I bought tickets for Matrix Resurrection and Liquorice Pizza between Christmas and New Year. If I don't get to see these films in the cinema I am going to be pissed off.

 

[oaksoft]

35 minutes ago, Meldrew said:

the head of almost every country in the 1st world is doing no different, and yet we nippy should've ''thought about mouthing off''  if nippy, sridhar and the dentist invented a cure over christmas and the new year, half you wanks in here would still have something to moan about and tell us where they've gone wrong.

The head of almost every other country in the world has the ability to borrow or print money.

That's the difference.

Sturgeon is in a unique position in that regard.

Did you really need that spelled out?

[Detournement]

6 minutes ago, Left Back said:

Do these people constructing the models have any clue what normal human behaviour is?

Look at the hero Neil Fergusson.  Happily carrying on a relationship with a married woman with her husbands consent I believe.  Fair enough they’re all consenting adults but it isn’t behaviour most people would consider normal.

Continuing to carry on said affair during lockdown when the law at the time expressly forbid it.  Yep, perfectly normal again.

These people are living in a different world to most of us.

I did not know this. The cuck makes Ferguson look like Chris Hemsworth!

 

[Detournement]

2 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

The head of almost every other country in the world has the ability to borrow or print money.

That's the difference.

Sturgeon is in a unique position in that regard.

Did you really need that spelled out?

In the Nippyverse where we are an independent country she still can't print money or borrow it cheaply so tough titties. 

Edited December 18, 2021 by Detournement

[williemillersmoustache]

5 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

In fairness you're right.

She did think about how to provide support.

She thought Boris would simply bend over and pay for it.

Or that he would/should be needing to do so down south, which indeed he does. 

 

[oaksoft]

47 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

 

Whether you support vaccines or not, there's something deeply uncomfortable about the people laughing at this guy.

We're creating a two-tier society and a new category of "scum" that we are supposed to be blaming for all of our problems.

Instead of blaming governments across the world for running their health services into the ground.

It's worrying and depressing that so many humans fall for this ruse time after time after time and governments must be rubbing their hands with glee at the levels of stupidity out there.

It's as though we never fucking learn how to work out who is really at fault for things like this.

[Jacksgranda]

1 hour ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

Have been taking a few steps back regarding this ‘pandemic’ and trying to look at it through a new perspective.

Eventually, Alpha, Delta and Omnicron will blow themselves out but, as sure as night follows day a new variant of Covid will come along and we’ll be back to square one.

Maybe a better policy would be to ditch all restrictions, masks, etc. and just let it rip and put all our resources into the hospital sector.

We could construct military style field hospitals (Louisa Jordan)to house the badly affected, equipped with ventilators, drugs, everything necessary to support Covid patients where they would be kept well away from the regular hospitals. As time goes on, with more and more people fully vaccinated the need for these facilities should decrease and rather than  continually pushing the endgame further away down the road, we confront it full on. Okay, there will be deaths, as there are at present, but who’s to say that this may not be a bad plan. Already, I’ve heard Carl Heneghan and Karl Sikora suggesting that we move along these lines.

To continue as at present is madness as the public are increasingly just ignoring the ‘rules’ and realising that life is a lot more than mere survival but the joyous interaction of one human spirit with another and that being controlled by politicians and scientists is no way to live.

Im not bothered about myself as I’ve had a wonderful life but I am bothered about the young and middle aged who are being denied the fulfilment and happiness that should be there for them but is being wrongly withheld from them for no good reason.

 

Where are the staff going to be conjured up from? The big problem is staff absence due to Covid, close contact, stress (little wonder) and other sickness

[Todd_is_God]

Just now, Jacksgranda said:

Where are the staff going to be conjured up from? The big problem is staff absence due to Government knickerwetting

FTFY

[MP_MFC]

I see this morning that a day or so after Javid’s 200k cases per day figure was discredited we now have everyone’s favourite supermodeller saying that it is probably close to 300k daily infections now.

Any day now we’ll get it.

[Ron Aldo]

[DeeTillEhDeh]

In the Nippyverse where we are an independent country she still can't print money or borrow it cheaply so tough titties. 

Nippyverse?

That's a cringy effort.

[Elixir]

Edinburgh was busy as ever yesterday. Most people just don't care anymore. As for a pointless two-week (six-month) 'circuit breaker' (cringe), this would have to be the straw that breaks the camel's back. The peak will quite clearly be reached and start falling when it's already too late to delay. Frankly, the NHS will just have to deal with it - if the dung models even get remotely close, which is doubtful. Enough now.

[oaksoft]

21 minutes ago, williemillersmoustache said:

Or that he would/should be needing to do so down south, which indeed he does. 

 

Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

He hasn't and that's all that matters.

In the meantime, maybe you and Sturgeon should phone business owners like our Frankie and explain to him how he should pay his staff, his mortgage, his rent and his bills? Maybe make a wee contribution to those bills?

It's staggering that you are so up Sturgeon's arse that you simply cannot find a molecule of empathy for those caught out by her ego.

It must be easy to not give a shit when you're still being paid.

[oaksoft]

20 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

Where are the staff going to be conjured up from? The big problem is staff absence due to Covid, close contact, stress (little wonder) and other sickness

Yes but this is because we've been treating covid patients in general hospitals.

WHat you're saying is exactly the reason to do what Dawson suggests.

[Bairnardo]

Just now, Elixir said:

Edinburgh was busy as ever yesterday. Most people just don't care anymore. As for a pointless two-week (six-month) 'circuit breaker' (cringe), this would have to be the straw that breaks the camel's back. The peak will quite clearly be reached and start falling when it's already too late to delay. Frankly, the NHS will just have to deal with it - if the dung models even get remotely close, which is doubtful. Enough now.

We're getting it anyway. Despite all the various waves that rise, peak and drop without intervention. Its a fucking travesty that the various govts of the land are goading eachother into these actions for political points when its clear that there is littel benefit, and lots of suffering attached. 

[Detournement]

16 minutes ago, Ron Aldo said:

 

Total theartre. 

 

[sailorcowden]

Scottish Government warn ‘new tighter restrictions may be required’ as new deadly frankincense and myrrh variants are dominant in Bethlehem.
 

Not a mask in sight. Their utter contempt for the safety of our Lord and saviour is disgusting. Tweeted to scotrail.