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Moderna are confident they’ll have a modified vaccine for this variant in 30 - 60 days.
I've just had their juice for my booster. Days of pain in the arm, no sleep on the night following, and a fever the next night. Honestly felt worse than I did when I had the virus. Arm still sore - jag was on Tuesday.
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1 hour ago, oaksoft said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59434196

Chris Witty worried that people won't follow any further restrictions.

Yes Chris. That's what happens when people sit and watch 18 months of knicker wetting restrictions achieve the square root of f**k all.

They may not be scientifically educated but they can spot that almost none of you seem to have the faintest idea what you are doing either. All of you have combined to destroy the credibility of science amongst the general population.

Only vaccines matter. Nothing else has made any discernible difference. And people are simply not going to be persuaded otherwise now.

So STFU about further restrictions, ditch your shite modelling software and your shite modellers and for all that is holy, please please PLEASE STFU about variants "potentially" evading vaccines and give us a shout if and when it actually happens.

I hope there is widespread riots and toppling of governments if they even think of dragging this shit on past the winter, tbh.

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Telegraph saying they don’t think it’s as bad as delta, express reporting it could cancel Christmas.

Everyone else just wanting them to shut the f**k up about it all til they have any facts. Vaccine efficacy for symptomatic infection is still going to be about 50% and will still be at least 90% for hospitalisations and deaths am sure. Simmer the f**k down.

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4 minutes ago, Elixir said:

I hope there is widespread riots and toppling of governments if they even think of dragging this shit on past the winter, tbh.

Genuinely surprised it hasn't happened somewhere already.

We've seen a few powder puff protests but nothing sustained which might seriously concern any authorities anywhere.

I suspect it's because people protesting against restrictions don't want to be seen to be associated with the anti-vax crazies who are currently the loudest voices.

In a funny way, I think the nutters are the only thing keeping a lid on riots.

Make no mistake though. The public are not buying the restrictions shite either. The English downing tools on masks and social distancing the second the legal mandate dropped is clear evidence of that and Scots are absolutely no different from them.

As an aside, the great worry here is that when we have a genuine national emergency where restrictions WOULD be necessary, the public won't support them again because they'll know they are facing years of restrictions. Both governments may have thought they were very clever lying to the public about how long things would last but IMO it's a clear case of them winning the battle and losing the war.

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2 hours ago, ICTChris said:

Moderna are confident they’ll have a modified vaccine for this variant in 30 - 60 days.

One thing we were told with the mRNA vaccines was that they could he tweaked pretty easily, just like Moderna is planning. Given they were all based on the original virus, I've always wondered why they haven't done so to date. They still work, of course, just a bit surprised they didn't modify them given how easily it now spreads. 

Remains to be seen whether a tweak to the vaccine is necessary as well, albeit good to know we can run with it if required. 

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Telegraph saying they don’t think it’s as bad as delta, express reporting it could cancel Christmas.

Everyone else just wanting them to shut the f**k up about it all til they have any facts. Vaccine efficacy for symptomatic infection is still going to be about 50% and will still be at least 90% for hospitalisations and deaths am sure. Simmer the f**k down.

Newspapers desperately seeking click bait remains a huge issue here. It’s almost as if their profitability is more important than even vaguely balanced reporting.
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1 hour ago, oaksoft said:

Both governments may have thought they were very clever lying to the public about how long things would last but IMO it's a clear case of them winning the battle and losing the war.

You seem to have the misperception that anyone has known just what the hell is going on. 

I choose to be optimistic and if Omicron is the new master it will multiply with ease, squeezing out Delta and be less harmful than the common cold, living with us in perpetuity in symbiotic harmony.

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53 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

You seem to have the misperception that anyone has known just what the hell is going on. 

I choose to be optimistic and if Omicron is the new master it will multiply with ease, squeezing out Delta and be less harmful than the common cold, living with us in perpetuity in symbiotic harmony.

As usual Welshy, I have no idea what you are banging on about.

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Just now, welshbairn said:

You claimed the Governments have being lying about how long things would last but I don't think they or anyone had a clue.

Whit?

You personally told us a wee while back that the SG were deliberately lying about masks being effective because they didn't want PPE to run out.

You assured us of that.

A wee "white lie" you called it.

Make your mind up Welshy.

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3 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

Whit?

You personally told us a wee while back that the SG were deliberately lying about masks being effective because they didn't want PPE to run out.

You assured us of that.

A wee "white lie" you called it.

Make your mind up Welshy.

And you accused me of flipping an argument. :lol: Night night oaksoft, sleep well...

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I think we're well past the stage of restrictions we had this time last year ever being imposed/adhered to again. Thankfully. I also think (my experience anyway) that in my local area, probably more have had Covid than not. It isn't 'scary' anymore. Most are not hiding from it now. I'll probably catch it over the weekend and be really ill 🤦 Wish it would go away. I also know a few who have died including a family member.

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Wonder if there are any studies to determine the setting where most transmission occurs:

Homes 

Workplace

Pub 

Schools 

College 

Restaurants - with a pint 

Football match 

Shopping 

Gym 

Fishing 

Remember when you couldn't go fishing on your own. 😄

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, GTee said:

Wonder if there are any studies to determine the setting where most transmission occurs:

Homes 

Workplace

Pub 

Schools 

College 

Restaurants - with a pint 

Football match 

Shopping 

Gym 

Fishing 

Remember when you couldn't go fishing on your own. 😄

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hospitals? Care Homes? Scotland fans in the fountains at Trafalgar Square? Nike Conferences? The Tory benches at Westminster? Sevco fans in George Square? Nick Hancock’s boudoir?

Has to be more. 

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2 minutes ago, pozbaird said:

Hospitals? Care Homes? Scotland fans in the fountains at Trafalgar Square? Nike Conferences? The Tory benches at Westminster? Sevco fans in George Square? Nick Hancock’s boudoir?

Has to be more. 

Nail bars.

Research from a Mr J Pennywise advises that churches are immune.

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20 minutes ago, Tynie Wickfield said:

Nail bars.

Research from a Mr J Pennywise advises that churches are immune.

Going against my natural instinct, but to be serious for a moment… I am far from being ‘scared of catching Covid’, but even I found being on the packed London Underground recently a bit more worrying. I never used to bother, never enjoyed being on it like sardines in a can, but was never too concerned about catching anything. Must admit though, being on that with folk coughing, spluttering, sneezing, shouting (post NFL game at Spurs heading back to the city), certainly made me think it must be a high-risk environment for anything, not just Covid, to be transmitted.

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7 hours ago, GTee said:

I think we're well past the stage of restrictions we had this time last year ever being imposed/adhered to again. Thankfully. I also think (my experience anyway) that in my local area, probably more have had Covid than not. It isn't 'scary' anymore. Most are not hiding from it now. I'll probably catch it over the weekend and be really ill 🤦 Wish it would go away. I also know a few who have died including a family member.

This about sums it up for me.  Spring last year everyone was shit scared of this virus.  I’d think that these days most people aren’t really fussed.

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