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9 minutes ago, Jan Vojáček said:

Because 'protecting the NHS' is no longer the excuse it was.

And if it needs protecting against a good flu season then the UKg need to get the purse out and pump it full of money. Allowing time to tackle the ling term societal ills that make us rely on the NHS so badly to start with.

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Re vaccinations, without labouring the point we're just back from Florida, if we were locals we could have got vaccinated at the airport, any one of a number of supermarkets or at the NFL game we attended, all on a walk in basis. 

Walk-in sites are still available all over Scotland. There are clinics in Ocean Terminal and Fort Kinnaird shopping centres today in Edinburgh, for example, as well as the numerous sites you’d expect them to be. Original vaccinations have been this way for months now, I saw them at Stark’s Park, which I suspect is similar to what you saw in the States - it’s no different to here, maybe slightly more in your face but then we’ve vaccinated far more people here.

Boosters are a little more tricky and currently are appointment only, in general. This is because of priority - silly to be dishing out boosters to healthy 18 year olds when only half of 50-59 year olds, and 23% of 40-49 year olds have theirs. It’s back to the queuing system.

Any inclination booster vaccination isn’t going fast enough in Scotland is a bit wide of the mark. I can’t find figures but I’d be surprised if anywhere outside of Israel has better coverage right now.
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Just now, 101 said:

And if it needs protecting against a good flu season then the UKg need to get the purse out and pump it full of money. Allowing time to tackle the ling term societal ills that make us rely on the NHS so badly to start with.

Absolutely. The NHS is chronically underfunded and every year faces a struggle with winter illnesses. Partly because of that lack of funding, and partly because we're an unhealthy, ageing nation.

If we're still using that as the excuse this year then we might as well axe Christmas and any winter events for the foreseeable, regardless of Covid.

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6 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

On a specimen date basis, they are not rising in any of the 4 nations.

They'll rise over Christmas due to increased mixing and people electing not to open windows and rack up a fucking massive gas bill for heating.

Wait two weeks (plus a few days). :P

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3 minutes ago, Paco said:

I can’t find figures but I’d be surprised if anywhere outside of Israel has better coverage right now.

I've no idea about anywhere else, but we have 41.2% of over 12s triple dosed here.

This is why I don't understand this panic. If the vaccine works, then those that need it most have had it by now. If it doesn't work, then stop pushing boosters and passports because that's a waste of everyone's time.

They can't have it both ways.

I don't agree with it at all, but the only tightening that makes any sense in this context is to extend vaccine passports. Anything else further than that undermines the vaccine rollout and will do nothing at all to keep people coming forward as they would be effectively saying "they do not work"

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2 minutes ago, Michael W said:

They'll rise over Christmas due to increased mixing and people electing not to open windows and rack up a fucking massive gas bill for heating.

Wait two weeks (plus a few days). :P

They're more likely to go down because schools are closed. I don't think there will be much increase in mixing. Socialising has been at normal levels now for some time.

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44 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

Its the constant drip drip drip of hinting that fucks with me the most. f**k off with the daily reactionary announcements.

I cannot believe we are back in this place over concern about what appears to be a bad cold.

f**k them all.

Fully agreed with that.

If they came out at the start of a calendar year and said "right, we're gonna have to have a 2 week full lockdown at X time - that date is non negotiable and won't be changed, but you won't be able to leave your house - however the rest of the year will be fully normal", I honestly don't think I'd give a f**k. The constant, ever changing drip feeding of will we won't we make your life miserable for weeks or months to come is the bit that gets me. It is mentally exhausting and I genuinely think anyone not suffering from it has no life

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A dinner I'll be having this afternoon will be making up for the distinct lack of socialising over the past year.  Hardly seen anyone tbh, so if they want me to cancel my party in the week of 'partygate' of all f***ing weeks, then they can do one.

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15 minutes ago, 101 said:

And if it needs protecting against a good flu season then the UKg need to get the purse out and pump it full of money. Allowing time to tackle the ling term societal ills that make us rely on the NHS so badly to start with.

The furlough scheme was a good experiment in how massive government spending in an advanced economy doesn't lead to the end of days (mind the hot takes about Weimar hyperinflation in this thread? lmao). 

But instead of focusing on investing in the health service (and the wider social services more generally) it's back to conversations about balancing books and paying off debts.

And folk just let them change the conversation. The pandemic has exacerbated a lot of problems brought about from austerity. But instead of driving change, nobody seems to be too bothered. Culture wars over masks are apparently a better thing to be outraged over.

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56 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:

They’re not allowed to- it’s in the SNP constitution that MSPs/MPs can’t publicly criticise the party or they’ll be expelled.

The irony being that the SNP are calling for Tory MPs to oust Boris Johnson. 

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23 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said:

A dinner I'll be having this afternoon will be making up for the distinct lack of socialising over the past year.  Hardly seen anyone tbh, so if they want me to cancel my party in the week of 'partygate' of all f***ing weeks, then they can do one.

I'll admit that I'm thinking twice about the couple of Christmas events I've got coming up. Not because of the variant per se, but the new rules around isolation if you get the dreaded call.

Obviously there's ways of reducing the chances of getting that call, but at least one of the events does bring a high risk of it happening regardless should someone happen to test positive. 

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Honestly, what the f**k has that got to do with Covid ? 
The incompetent coward that is Johnson just threw a years worth of dead cats onto the table 2 days ago in a desperate attempt to cover up his own failings and lies. 'Plan B' is the most brazen, 100% political move of this whole 22 months shambles. 
Pretty much every single country worldwide is under some form of restrictions. Some lighter than Scotland's, many much more restrictive. 
And yet you, and the small cabal of rabid moonhowlers on here, are whining at Nicola Sturgeon for doing something that she hasn't even done yet.
Brilliant. 
 
 
 

Shut up ya fuckin dick
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5 minutes ago, The Master said:

I'll admit that I'm thinking twice about the couple of Christmas events I've got coming up. Not because of the variant per se, but the new rules around isolation if you get the dreaded call.

Obviously there's ways of reducing the chances of getting that call, but at least one of the events does bring a high risk of it happening regardless if someone happens to test positive. 

Easy, just don’t isolate if you’re feeling fine.

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7 minutes ago, The Master said:

I'll admit that I'm thinking twice about the couple of Christmas events I've got coming up. Not because of the variant per se, but the new rules around isolation if you get the dreaded call.

Obviously there's ways of reducing the chances of getting that call, but at least one of the events does bring a high risk of it happening regardless if someone happens to test positive. 

Tbh - 10 days in the house with little expected of me, in the dead of winter would be a dream.

I’ll live normally and keep doing everything I usually do, but if I’m unlucky enough to get traced I just have to suck it up.

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1 minute ago, Honest_Man#1 said:

Easy, just don’t isolate if you’re feeling fine.

Easier said than done if the isolation rules are written into law. I'm exactly the sort of person who would be unlucky enough to get a call/visit to make sure I'm doing as I'm told. 

Just now, Abdul_Latif said:

Tbh - 10 days in the house with little expected of me, in the dead of winter would be a dream.

I’ll live normally and keep doing everything I usually do, but if I’m unlucky enough to get the traced I just have to suck it up.

Any other time, sure. In fact, ping me on Boxing Day...please!

But the week before Christmas brings with it all sorts of things where people rely on my help (or, more specifically, my car...).

 

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