Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[PedroMoutinho]

2 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

Just received this at work from regulatory standards dept, beyond ominous !!!

Morning

 

FM will be making a statement at 1215pm today regarding the current pandemic status. The situation can best be described as severe. We expect an announcement by Tuesday which will result in enhanced enforcement responsibilities for LA Regulatory Services but may be sooner. Four nations discussions are on-going and I would not rule out a Plan C announcement by UKGov which may influence the SG response.

 

Be prepared for the worst but hope for the least worst

 

B
 

Enhanced enforcement responsibilities sounds like passports 

[Donathan]

We need a political party in Scotland that is officially neutral on the subject of independence, sort of like the Alliance party in Northern Ireland. Would back a referendum in order to let the people decide but then won’t campaign one way or the other.

 

Its the only way we can ever be governed competently. You’ve got half the population blindly backing an incompetent party because they happen to be Yes voters and the other half voting tactically for three other incompetent parties because they happen to be No voters. 

[Billy Jean King]

Enhanced enforcement responsibilities sounds like passports 

That was intended for licensing and trading standards staff so not so sure it's that basic.

I'm more concerned about a UKG 4 nations plan C as early as next week. That could be furlough in some form !

[Left Back]

2 minutes ago, Donathan said:

We need a political party in Scotland that is officially neutral on the subject of independence, sort of like the Alliance party in Northern Ireland. Would back a referendum in order to let the people decide but then won’t campaign one way or the other.

 

Its the only way we can ever be governed competently. You’ve got half the population blindly backing an incompetent party because they happen to be Yes voters and the other half voting tactically for three other incompetent parties because they happen to be No voters. 

Would it not be better just to have a competent party regardless of their stance on independence?

[staggy1929]

56 minutes ago, ddfg said:

Go and see a good lawyer? 

Will do, cheers.

[Empty It]

If there’s any restrictions on household mixing then there should be mass non-compliance. 

House party at yours?

[Ron Aldo]

I understand the arguments against vaccine passports and agree with most but if it's between having to show a QR to get in anywhere or being locked in the house for a few weeks (which ends up months) then I know which I'd prefer.

From a slightly selfish point of view, I'm supposed to be getting married in less than 2 weeks having already postponed it from this time last year. The last couple of days in particular have left us fully expecting that we'll have to postpone it again.

[Have some faith in Magic]

31 minutes ago, Donathan said:

IMO,

 

- Vaccine passports will be extended to all hospitality venues

 

- Hospitality can remain open but social distancing will be reintroduced, apart from nightclubs. 
 

- I wouldn’t be surprised if nightclubs and large indoor events move to a vaccine AND lateral flow test proof. The SG would really like to close these things at least over Christmas like Ireland have done, but the lack of furlough prevents that.

 

- Actually on second thoughts I think they might just close nightclubs anyway and pay the furlough out of their own budget. This would be less costly than the full blown furlough scheme.

 

- They’ll probably bring back 6 adults from 3 households maximum in pubs, restaurants and indoor gatherings.

 

 

Hope I’m wrong. 

The households thing would effectively mean an end to vertical drinking. 

[Todd_is_God]

Its the constant drip drip drip of hinting that fucks with me the most. f**k off with the daily reactionary announcements.

I cannot believe we are back in this place over concern about what appears to be a bad cold.

f**k them all.

[Left Back]

That's my work just cancelled all remaining Christmas parties and events.  Unsurprising although they still haven't issued revised guidance about WFH.

[D Angelo Barksdale]

Quarantine is coming 

Quarantine is coming

[Mallo_Madrid]

Our Christmas night out is tonight.

Only 11 of us - few pints and a meal at a local restaurant All still game and looking forward to it.

I'll not even bother tuning in at 12:15. I've had enough.

[Guest Bob Mahelp]

5 minutes ago, Donathan said:

We need a political party in Scotland that is officially neutral on the subject of independence, sort of like the Alliance party in Northern Ireland. Would back a referendum in order to let the people decide but then won’t campaign one way or the other.

 

Its the only way we can ever be governed competently. You’ve got half the population blindly backing an incompetent party because they happen to be Yes voters and the other half voting tactically for three other incompetent parties because they happen to be No voters. 

Honestly, what the f**k has that got to do with Covid ? 

The incompetent coward that is Johnson just threw a years worth of dead cats onto the table 2 days ago in a desperate attempt to cover up his own failings and lies. 'Plan B' is the most brazen, 100% political move of this whole 22 months shambles. 

Pretty much every single country worldwide is under some form of restrictions. Some lighter than Scotland's, many much more restrictive. 

And yet you, and the small cabal of rabid moonhowlers on here, are whining at Nicola Sturgeon for doing something that she hasn't even done yet.

Brilliant. 

 

 

 

[Abdul_Latif]

5 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said:

The incompetent coward that is Johnson just threw a years worth of dead cats onto the table 2 days ago in a desperate attempt to cover up his own failings and lies. 'Plan B' is the most brazen, 100% political move of this whole 22 months shambles. 

Then if we are currently the same as England restrictions wise, what is our imminent tightening?
 

By the same logic that has to be a political move.

[Guest Bob Mahelp]

Just now, Abdul_Latif said:

Then if we are currently the same as England restrictions wise, what is our imminent tightening?
 

By the same logic that has to be a political move.

Do you know with absolute certainty that further restrictions will be announced ?

 

[Bairnardo]

Like most, I have been ok with what happened last year. The inital wave of a new disease and all... But surely, surely to f**k we have now learned that waves peak and burn out even when restrictions remain unchanged. We have seen it now twice at least with varying things in place each time. So with that in mind, the only way you prevent this from spreading is full on, no mixing with other humans whatsoever. So you either go Wuhan style, or don't, failing to recognise that this targeting of certain types of socialising, which has nore than a hint of moralising about it, simply does not work and ought to be completely rejected as a strategy is a fucking embarrassment. 

 

My toes are undergoing a pre-curl at the thought of listening to Sturgeons pearl clutching pish, and f**k her for seeking to make me and others like me effectively criminals for refusing to participate in this utter bullshit. 

[Abdul_Latif]

2 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said:

Do you know with absolute certainty that further restrictions will be announced ?

 

Let’s quit with the deflection.

If (very likely) further restrictions come into play after midday, it is by your logic purely political given that was your take on WM doing the same.

[Jan Vojáček]

Had a wee look at Travelling Tabby from this time last year, and I hadn't fully realised how different the position we are in is. Which just makes me even more frustrated about the panicking.

December 10 2020 - 984 in hospital (52 in ICU). 933 new cases, 50 deaths.

December 9 2021 - 578 in hospital (39 in ICU). 3196 cases, 16 deaths.

I've been saying it for months, but we're at a stage where we need to know the endgame. If it's purely to stop people being infected then the Scottish Government (and UK Gov) need to say that. Because 'protecting the NHS' is no longer the excuse it was.

[Michael W]

17 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

I'm more concerned about a UKG 4 nations plan C as early as next week. That could be furlough in some form !

I am concerned that this is what's coming our way in January.  They'll almost certainly be trying to limp through until Christmas as any restrictions on gatherings are going to be consigned to the nearest bin. To implement harsh restrictions at Christmas a second year running in a highly vaccinated population is not going to wash. 

Fairly obvious infections will rise so January seems the opportune time to try that sort of stuff, as if January isn't shit enough already. JVT will come out and make some embarassing metaphor that we were 2-0 up, started showboating and are now 3-2 down and the captain's just been sent off for two-footing the ref. 

[Left Back]

2 minutes ago, Michael W said:

I am concerned that this is what's coming our way in January.  They'll almost certainly be trying to limp through until Christmas as any restrictions on gatherings are going to be consigned to the nearest bin. To implement harsh restrictions at Christmas a second year running in a highly vaccinated population is not going to wash. 

Fairly obvious infections will rise so January seems the opportune time to try that sort of stuff, as if January isn't shit enough already. JVT will come out and make some embarassing metaphor that we were 2-0 up, started showboating and are now 3-2 down and the captain's just been sent off for two-footing the ref.