Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[vikingTON]

24 minutes ago, Michael W said:

I can quite well believe there were more than a few people Lee Wallace'd by their neighbours, unfortunately. Some of these people were subsequently fined £10k for their troubles. 

I get that it's harder to investigate stuff that happened a year ago, but the rules are supposed to apply to everyone. There is evidence it happened and no-one is saying charge people immediately. I can buy 'not enough evidence' insofar as prosecuting at the moment, but there is definitely reasonable suspicion it happened. It absolutely should be investigated.

Two wrongs don't make a right and police resources should not be wasted on finding out if some daft restriction was flouted a year ago. 

If people want to hold those in charge responsible, they can just choose not to vote for them yet again and to file their next stern behaviour change lectures in the bin where they belong. 

[ddfg]

15 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

I genuinely think thats the worst part about it, tell people what you want, what the criteria are, what happened to the ‘adult conversation’? 

Never happened, It was all a figment of her imagination

[effeffsee_the2nd]

I genuinely think thats the worst part about it, tell people what you want, what the criteria are, what happened to the ‘adult conversation’? 

Falkirk will be playing in the champions league before you get the adult conversation

[PedroMoutinho]

32 minutes ago, Ron Aldo said:

I'm genuinely at a loss as to what further measures can be put in place. If NS is thinking of any form of lockdown or restrictions on socialising, hospitality or any other industry then she needs to just come out and say it rather than drip feeding it on twitter.

The only measure she can really implement without furlough is to extend passports- I’d be very surprised if this doesn’t happen over the next few weeks.

Although I wouldn’t put it past her to try and do something else with hospitality like reducing hours or closing nightclubs.

Edited December 8, 2021 by PedroMoutinho

[pozbaird]

Baldy speccy’ tube alert. No510 in a series of, well, who knows how many with these chunts in Holyrood / Westminster. More to follow…

 

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Two wrongs don't make a right and police resources should not be wasted on finding out if some daft restriction was flouted a year ago. 
If people want to hold those in charge responsible, they can just choose not to vote for them yet again and to file their next stern behaviour change lectures in the bin where they belong. 

This isn't about breaking restrictions.

It's about those who set the restrictions breaking the restrictions.

If other people were fined and prosecuted then surely the bunch of charlatans should be prosecuted under the same rules they set.

An election in 2 1/2 years time isn't a deterrent for these hypocritical shitebags.

If anything if they aren't prosecuted it will just confirm that they can get away with anything.

[Detournement]

This is a new trend in America.

So instead of an unvaccinated person's insurance company paying the hospital bill the patient gets it and ends up bankrupt. 

But it doesn't just punish the patient as the hospital also doesn't get paid which is obviously a genius idea during a pandemic.

 

[Todd_is_God]

4 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

This isn't about breaking restrictions.

It's about those who set the restrictions breaking the restrictions.

If other people were fined and prosecuted then surely the bunch of charlatans should be prosecuted under the same rules they set.

An election in 2 1/2 years time isn't a deterrent for these hypocritical shitebags.

If anything if they aren't prosecuted it will just confirm that they can get away with anything.

Starmer today, and Lammy this morning, completely distanced themselves from calls for anything beyond owning up and apologising.

Is it cynical to suggest they know they've broken similar rules and don't want to torch their own careers?

[Michael W]

5 minutes ago, Detournement said:

This is a new trend in America.

So instead of an unvaccinated person's insurance company paying the hospital bill the patient gets it and ends up bankrupt. 

But it doesn't just punish the patient as the hospital also doesn't get paid which is obviously a genius idea during a pandemic.

 

Surely not the 'Liberals' wanting people bankrupting themselves? 

There are a lot of people that really need to take a step back and look again at their demands. 

[GeeJay]

f**k the vaccine passports.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Starmer today, and Lammy this morning, completely distanced themselves from calls for anything beyond owning up and apologising.
Is it cynical to suggest they know they've broken similar rules and don't want to torch their own careers?

I genuinely despair.

The People's Party - are they f**k.

[Thereisalight..]

We're really never getting out of this are we? 22 months in and despite the vast majority being double/triple dosed restrictions and vaccine mandates still rear their ugly head.

The worst thing people did was accept "3 weeks to flatten the curve" and swallowed the lie that vaccines were the way out of this. All for something with the average age of death being 80+. Mindblowing and the worst part of it all is some people still believe the lies politicians tell them and lap up the threat of more restrictions. I hated society before but even more so now with all the division and wanting family members to take LFT tests before Christmas dinner. Heads have gone

[Sergeant Wilson]

3 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said:

We're really never getting out of this are we? 22 months in and despite the vast majority being double/triple dosed restrictions and vaccine mandates still rear their ugly head.

The worst thing people did was accept "3 weeks to flatten the curve" and swallowed the lie that vaccines were the way out of this. All for something with the average age of death being 80+. Mindblowing and the worst part of it all is some people still believe the lies politicians tell them and lap up the threat of more restrictions. I hated society before but even more so now with all the division and wanting family members to take LFT tests before Christmas dinner. Heads have gone

Aye, yours.

[Thereisalight..]

1 minute ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

Aye, yours.

Mine? Aye because 22 months in and still living like this and being frustrated by it really is "heads gone" stuff  

This isnt living a normal life and anyone who says otherwise is at it 

[DeeTillEhDeh]

[Sergeant Wilson]

12 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said:

Mine? Aye because 22 months in and still living like this and being frustrated by it really is "heads gone" stuff  

This isnt living a normal life and anyone who says otherwise is at it 

^^^

[Thereisalight..]

The Tory Christmas party of 2020 should tell everyone all they need to know. Politicians preaching on about "staying safe" yet they were partying. Add in before that Catherine Calderwood going to a holiday home, Margaret Ferrier travelling from London to Scotland whilst positive, that's not even mentioning Hancock and Cummings. We have so many wet wipe politicians in the UK, do you really think these spineless simps would do anything to put their life at risk? They know covid is a minimal risk to those fit and healthy and they had a party in a time pre vaccines. People seriously need to wake up

[vikingTON]

28 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

This isn't about breaking restrictions.

It's about those who set the restrictions breaking the restrictions.

That's not a crime though, so the thing that would be getting investigating using police time and resources is in fact 'breaking restrictions' and breaking restrictions alone. 

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If other people were fined and prosecuted then surely the bunch of charlatans should be prosecuted under the same rules they set.

No, because it would be a waste of time and resources that achieves no actual purpose than stoke some bizarre sense of self-righteousness. 

We should be reversing and scratching all the ridiculous punishments handed out at the height of public health hysteria. Not wasting yet more fucking time policing irrelevant social interactions. 

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An election in 2 1/2 years time isn't a deterrent for these hypocritical shitebags.

If anything if they aren't prosecuted it will just confirm that they can get away with anything.

 

'We can't trust the electorate to care about this thing' is still not a good argument to prosecute a long-irrelevant breach of long-irrelevant rules. If people care so much about it, they can democratically remove them from high office (and Tories absolutely do care about losing political power, if literally nothing else). 

The degree of shock and outrage that a Cabinet containing the biggest roasters in the entire country were somehow not All In It Together with the plebs suggests that the Wallet Inspectorate have missed a trick with the UK public.  

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

1 hour ago, virginton said:

Two wrongs don't make a right and police resources should not be wasted on finding out if some daft restriction was flouted a year ago. 

If people want to hold those in charge responsible, they can just choose not to vote for them yet again and to file their next stern behaviour change lectures in the bin where they belong. 

I think youre quite right tbh. Its easy to scream for blood and tbh this would lead to a few people being issued with a fine, no one is going to go to jail here. Potentially hundreds of thousands to hold such an investigation and all for what, a few folk to get a £40 fine worked up them?

The response should be political, get them to f**k, but they wont for a few reasons 1) labour are hopeless 2) the tories have done much worse and its still con +4 3) the right wing and media love them and want them in power so will never properly go after them. 
 

I do find it a bit rich SNP calling for resignations when they didnt for the greens. 
 

Anyway, people are quite rightly furious, but I genuinely dont think even if there was a criminal enquiry and Johnson was implicated that he’d even resign. 

Edited December 8, 2021 by Inanimate Carbon Rod

[Elixir]

3 hours ago, Lyle Lanley said:

When is the tour lads?

It'll depend on Covid restrictions...

 

1 hour ago, pozbaird said:

Baldy speccy’ tube alert. No510 in a series of, well, who knows how many with these chunts in Holyrood / Westminster. More to follow…

'If the new variant spreads further'. What even is this gubbins chat? Do they think it could pack up its bags and go home if we're lucky?

While we're at it, is Swinney more monstrously bald, or monstrously speccy?