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3 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

That low peak in cases surely down to the non availablility of testing though?

Not in January.  Mass testing was going on.  The peak being lower is more likely because January was before the Delta variant became prevalent in the UK.

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3 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

It was always going to be the case. College and uni students next, though hopefully the vaccines in these age groups will help dampen it.

Absolutely, school kids have been largely shielded from exposure throughout. It's not a problem, of course, but it does give a good indication of how little use masks are.

I'm not sure we will see a bounce from unis going back tbh - that demographic have already had high exposure etc.

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2 minutes ago, Left Back said:

Not in January.  Mass testing was going on.  The peak being lower is more likely because January was before the Delta variant became prevalent in the UK.

Not at the level of 1% of the population per day it wasn't. It averaged around 20k per day, with a similar %age positive.

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9 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

It was always going to be the case. College and uni students next, though hopefully the vaccines in these age groups will help dampen it.

Colleges have been running since the schools went back; universities are the only sector left that could change the trend. 

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Home Nations Daily Cases per 100K update  :  UK Average  347.9 to 337.0 down 3.13%, England  297.2 to 287.9 down 3.13%, Wales 502.2 to 495.2 down 1.39%, Northern Ireland   567.7 to 547.1 down 3.63%

Deaths UK 178 up 20,   Scotland 30 up 4,  Wales 8 up 4, NI 10 up 5,  England 130 up 7.

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27 minutes ago, Left Back said:

Not in January.  Mass testing was going on.  The peak being lower is more likely because January was before the Delta variant became prevalent in the UK.

Im more meaning the start, I though Wee Bully was referring to the start too. Thats the most interesting as it gives a tineline for impact on transmission of going from no restrictions, to the maximum overnight. 

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A shame the arrival tests aren't going entirely, but hopefully we can get those binned soon. In the meantime, I'm sure the testing industry will have magically discovered that its antigen tests ought to cost the same as PCRs did. 

That looks a pretty clear sign to me that an extension of furlough looks highly unlikely - with a big reduction in the red list, the travel industry in theory ought to be in a near normal position. 

On a different note, we're going to run into some very fucking annoying problems with under 18s, who are only being given one dose of the vaccine. They are going to end up in quarantine etc abroad and will need to be pre-deoarture tested before return to the UK. Is there going to be an option to double jag them, even privately? 

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It also claims to be 48 hours worth of cases, yet lists 5,529 in the last 24 hours, and 5,885 in the last 48 hours.
356 cases from the previous day simply cannot be correct.
These are two different measures. One is confirmed positive cases and one is records processed - presumably the technical issues have led to a bit of a mismatch of these.
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3 minutes ago, craigkillie said:
1 hour ago, Todd_is_God said:
It also claims to be 48 hours worth of cases, yet lists 5,529 in the last 24 hours, and 5,885 in the last 48 hours.
356 cases from the previous day simply cannot be correct.

These are two different measures. One is confirmed positive cases and one is records processed - presumably the technical issues have led to a bit of a mismatch of these.

It can't be 5,529 over 48 hours either, though. That would represent a 57% week on week reduction over the same 2 days from last week.

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13 minutes ago, Michael W said:

 

On a different note, we're going to run into some very fucking annoying problems with under 18s, who are only being given one dose of the vaccine. They are going to end up in quarantine etc abroad and will need to be pre-deoarture tested before return to the UK. Is there going to be an option to double jag them, even privately? 

Under 18s should be in school not travelling abroad. I'm sure that the snippy parent brigade who got the rest of society locked down to keep the schools open will take this self-inflicted L with good grace. 

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4 hours ago, Todd_is_God said:

Have they been admitted to hospital requiring treatment for Covid, have they been admitted to hospital for treatment for something else but tested positive, have they tested positive after already being in hospital (i.e. caught it there) and are now requiring treatment, or have they caught it whilst already in hospital but require no treatment?

I imagine that number will be spread amongst all 4 categories. I still find it absolutely staggering that, not only do we not appear to know, but that no-one seems to have thought to ask.

I've never see any info on the numbers of people in hospital who were admitted for something else but then caught Covid while in there, and it's something they definitely seem to keep quiet about, but I think there is a mix up between two different things, the number of people in hospital and the number of people admitted to hospital.

While the numbers given for people in hospital with Covid will include those who didn't have it before they went in, the number of daily admissions is people who've tested positive either 14 days before admission or when they are admitted. So this won't include this unknown number who contract Covid while in hospital.

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5 minutes ago, s_dog said:

I've never see any info on the numbers of people in hospital who were admitted for something else but then caught Covid while in there, and it's something they definitely seem to keep quiet about, but I think there is a mix up between two different things, the number of people in hospital and the number of people admitted to hospital.

While the numbers given for people in hospital with Covid will include those who didn't have it before they went in, the number of daily admissions is people who've tested positive either 14 days before admission or when they are admitted. So this won't include this unknown number who contract Covid while in hospital.

I was under the impression someone who tested positive whilst already in hospital was then counted as a new admission on the day they tested positive.

Is that no longer the case?

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4 hours ago, Elixir said:

Oh wow, a whole 150 people out of over 68 million - most probably in with a broken wrist or appendicitis but testing positive for ole Rona! Better lockdown immediately to protect the NHS!

It's for Scotland only and a wee hint, the number of under 30's in Scotland is a bit below 68 million. Besides, it was only in response to your oh they're in no way a burden, I know facts are something you struggle with.

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4 hours ago, Left Back said:

Wales goes for vaccine passports.  Looks a similar set-up to Scotland.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-58596128

The big difference is it allows a negative LFT result to be used as well as vaccine record. Don't know why they haven't done that here too, I think they've said they'll look at it again, and they should. I don't see there being any further lockdowns in the UK, so they might as well do these passports right and not exclude people completely.

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Leitch on saying pcr tests day 2 to possibly stay in Scotland ffs

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To which any journalist worth their salt would be saying "and the scientific basis for this divergence is.....?"

But what we'll get is "ShOuLd wE bE wOrRiEd AbOuT tHe CaNaRiEs VaRiAnT!?!?!"
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