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Wickes website currently has a "queue" holding page due to "unprecedented demand". It's like trying to purchase T in the Park tickets circa 2005. Gonna be some really badly put together shelves going up over the next couple of weeks.

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I’m assuming the government is putting in checks to stop companies who otherwise would have survived fine from declaring we are packing in - where’s our 80%? 

Edited by Alert Mongoose

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1 minute ago, Have some faith in Magic said:

The govt press conference today talking about testing  makes it seem even more strange that Charlie boy got the NHS test. 

 

They'd give 10000 deaths to save him. 

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Just now, ayrmad said:

They'd give 10000 deaths to save him. 

... and the rest.

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It's hard to make comparisons, we're not exactly testing loads of folk, I just follow the death numbers at the moment, that gives me an idea where we are. 
Deaths is a pretty similar comparison to cases in terms of trajectory at this point.

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3 hours ago, Bairnardo said:

Todays health update.... Most symptoms subsiding although did wake up with a pretty sore head.

Sense of smell and taste still almost totally away. This is becoming a serious cause for concern.

 

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6 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said:

I’m assuming the government is putting in checks to stop companies who otherwise would have survived fine from declaring we are packing in - where’s our 80%? 

It's nothing to do with liquidity.

Any company is elligible to use the scheme. The idea is to encourage non-essential works to close for a short period in order to allow more people to stay home, without forcing companies to lay stay off in order to retain staff and not go bust in doing so.

They have to declare an employee as furloughed to get the 80%. They can't have them working and have 80% of their wages paid by the government.

Edited by Todd_is_God

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"No test is better than a bad test". 

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Boris Johnson just said he dislikes profiteering very much. I look forward to seeing a list of the hypocrisies laced through that statement in the near future.

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4 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

It's nothing to do with liquidity.

Any company is elligible to use the scheme. The idea is to encourage non-essential works to close for a short period in order to allow more people to stay home, without forcing companies to lay stay off in order to retain staff and not go bust in doing so.

They have to declare an employee as furloughed to get the 80%. They can't have them working and have 80% of their wages paid by the government.

Yes but if you had enough to pay that employee anyway but think why should we when we can declare them as such and effectively get the government to pay them instead of using their own reserves.

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1 hour ago, Granny Danger said:

I’d like to see his workings.

They're bound to be better than yours...

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grandma

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Not needed at work tonight. And maybe not tomorrow either 

Turns out I'm not 'essential' :o 

I'm like "SHIT!!!! They've sussed me" :lol: 

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2 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said:

The growth rate is just the testing rate.

Stop testing and no one else will get it.

🏌️♂️

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12 minutes ago, Milnzo said:

 

The BMI section hasn't been adjusted for the normal population distribution.  

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4 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said:

Yes but if you had enough to pay that employee anyway but think why should we when we can declare them as such and effectively get the government to pay them instead of using their own reserves.

An admirably noble but sadly naive stance. No matter the cash in the bank, no company is going to pay workers to sit idle when there is no real prospect of work for them. No work? Oot the door. There’s a reason we’ve migrated to the term ‘human resource’. 

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3 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said:

Yes but if you had enough to pay that employee anyway but think why should we when we can declare them as such and effectively get the government to pay them instead of using their own reserves.

I think that is fair, though. The government are practically begging employers to shut off their income streams to protect the national health.

Cash rich companies are more likely to be able to top up salaries to 100%

Putting any eligibility requirements in place would only encourage the excluded employers to lay staff off or keep their staff coming in to work

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3 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said:

Yes but if you had enough to pay that employee anyway but think why should we when we can declare them as such and effectively get the government to pay them instead of using their own reserves.

That would take another few weeks to organise and loads of cases going to appeal. "Rich enough to pay" criteria would have accountants and lawyers battling for years. It's supposed to be an emergency measure.

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9 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said:

Yes but if you had enough to pay that employee anyway but think why should we when we can declare them as such and effectively get the government to pay them instead of using their own reserves.

That’s all very good and well, but, you know, nurse pics.

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