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4 minutes ago, Frank Sobotka said:

Hedge fund managers work, therefore are working class according to yourself.

Pretty simple really, just like your class analysis.

I *think* yon GD's point is that you're working class if you *need* to work.

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3 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

I said “need” to work, didn’t you notice that?  There might be some hedge fund managers who don’t have the personal wealth to stop working so they are de facto working class.

They probably wouldn’t like you telling them that though.

 

I did notice that.

It doesn't make your point any less stupid though.

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36 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

I did wonder if I had missed something obvious.... Unsure why Wee Bully felt he had to go in with such an emotionally charged comparison then refuse to tell me upon asking, which posts merited the comparison. 

Victim blaming is victim blaming.  

But I suppose they are only a victim if they are saying / doing something you agree with.  If they aren’t, they must be fair game?

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2 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

Victim blaming is victim blaming.  

But I suppose they are only a victim if they are saying / doing something you agree with.  If they aren’t, they must be fair game?

Who is saying that? Am I saying that?

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12 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

Victim blaming is victim blaming.  

But I suppose they are only a victim if they are saying / doing something you agree with.  If they aren’t, they must be fair game?

Weren't you the guy having a proper go at a young woman who was forced into some completely ridiculous and cold-hearted hoop-jumping a few weeks ago to get back into Scotland to visit her gravely ill father through no fault of her own?

Don't remember you bedding in with this stance then.

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6 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

Did I say you were?  Both the original point and my latest are in relation to the wider discussion.  

Yeah.... Your original point seems to be that anyone criticising a pressure group for placing a vulnerable person in easily forseeable harms way in order to score some political points, on the most emotive subject of our lifetimes is effectively the same as someone blaming a woman for her own rape. You can't see that this is a wild position to take? And for clarity, no I do not condone online abuse of a minor in any way. 

 

I'm out. Your brain is too fucked up for me. This, on top of the stunning lack of empathy you showed for a young lassie who was in a heartbreaking position over the imminent loss of a parent has blew my mind. 

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Just now, Bairnardo said:

Yeah.... Your original point seems to be that anyone criticising a pressure group for placing a vulnerable person in easily forseeable harms way in order to score some political points, on the most emotive subject of our lifetimes is effectively the same as someone blaming a woman for her own rape. You can't see that this is a wild position to take? And for clarity, no I do not condone online abuse of a minor in any way. 

 

I'm out. Your brain is too fucked up for me. This, on top of the stunning lack of empathy you showed for a young lassie who was in a heartbreaking position over the imminent loss of a parent has blew my mind. 

Tatty bye then

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21 minutes ago, Frank Sobotka said:

I did notice that.

It doesn't make your point any less stupid though.

 

20 minutes ago, Frank Sobotka said:

Aye, it's a pretty stupid and shallow analysis though.

You seem a bit harsher than normal, are you upset about something?

Anyway it’s no more stupid or shallow that the view that someone who has a decent income, own their house(usually with a big mortgage) and maybe have a bit of other wealth are significantly different from other “working class” people.

Rather it’s used by politicians on the right to convince those people that they are “middle class” and have more in common with the Tories than with other political parties.  The thing is they don’t, Tory policies are certainly not in these folks interest and they have far more in common with other working class folk.

FWIW I also think middle/working class is more than, socio-economic, it also relates to a world view.

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2 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

Weren't you the guy having a proper go at a young woman who was forced into some completely ridiculous and cold-hearted hoop-jumping a few weeks ago to get back into Scotland to visit her gravely ill father through no fault of her own?

Don't remember you bedding in with this stance then.

Ah, back to the lassie who decided to have a holiday rather than come back and see her dying father.

Exactly the same as handing out abuse to a kid. 

Any other false equivalence you want to chuck in?

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3 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

Ah, back to the lassie who decided to have a holiday rather than come back and see her dying father.

Exactly the same as handing out abuse to a kid. 

Any other false equivalence you want to chuck in?

Hmmm, so your own mantra of

23 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

Victim blaming is victim blaming.  

Only actually applies to who you perceive to be a victim.

What a piece of work you are.

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Just now, djchapsticks said:

Hmmm, so your own mantra of

Only actually applies to who you perceive to be a victim.

What a piece of work you are.

I thought he was being sarcastic later on in the post, little did I know he would confirm it as a serious point shortly thereafter........

27 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

But I suppose they are only a victim if they are saying / doing something you agree with.  If they aren’t, they must be fair game?

 

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Just now, djchapsticks said:

Hmmm, so your own mantra of

Only actually applies to who you perceive to be a victim.

What a piece of work you are.

Of course it does.  She was not a victim.

She was in a very unfortunate situation, entirely of her own making.  Her complaint, if you recall, was that the time spent on holiday should have counted towards her quarantine

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Weren't you the guy having a proper go at a young woman who was forced into some completely ridiculous and cold-hearted hoop-jumping a few weeks ago to get back into Scotland to visit her gravely ill father through no fault of her own?
Don't remember you bedding in with this stance then.
As I recall, she took a gamble on her entry, hoping to cut short her isolation period, and got fucked when the rules changed. She did not, as some posted, do so for a wee holiday, but equally had no valid claim for rules to be bent in her favour. Made for some ridiculous faux-concern on here, mind. Kind of a warm-up for this weekend, and the framing of iSage as a danger to children everywhere.

Some people are really, really going to miss this pandemic.
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